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#1 Trakke

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:36 PM

I actually tried socket and gem and going fullout stamina on one of my hunters on TR.

[Survivalist] [Endurance Training] -> [Hunter vs. Wild]

Would make this viable. And instead of the battlemaster you use the essence of gossamer (pretty much gives the +health effect but not on command tho)

I reached around 37k health on TR and i reckon if people with some furious and rest deadly went for this on live, they could reach higher numbers (with proffesions and whatnot).

To the thing is that i reached 4k ap anyway, so its a loss on about 300-400 ap and some crit but i can really see it be worth it versus RMP and other comps like that which likes to focus the hunter.

If anyone could theorycraft something about this, the pros and cons and things or some rich guy could regem and try it out i would love to know.

PS. Reached 2.2k with that stamina hunter on TR
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:41 PM

It really depends on what you end up trading, and it's only a benefit if you're going to die w/o the stamina buffer.

I could see it being a possibility on some select team setups like Hpal/Dk/Hunter or other such teams that the hunter is the most favorable target to train.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:43 PM

personally that seems like way too gimp in damage. kills your meta socket. You are going to do no damage. Prob. do slightly more than a prot warrior? Your healer will eventually go oom while you tank all that damage. Mages with tricks of the trade alone in a kidney do almot 17k damage or something ridiculous. I am sure the other healer will be able to outheal whatever damage you are doing and keep up either the rogue or the mage and they will continue to assault you till you are dead.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:54 PM

Yea 2v2 it's out of the question IMO. 3v3 it has some possiblity.

Speaking of meta... how exactly do the JC prismatic gems work?
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:02 PM

one prismatic gem fills the requirement for relentless meta
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:05 PM

Yeah i wasnt talking about 2v2. 3v3 mainly when hunter is the target.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:16 PM

The stam thing doesn't make sense in a context where the other team doesn't *have* to kill you. Dk/hunt/pld does generally have to contend with people focusing the hunter, but anyone can look at you, see that you have 40k hp, and decide that the dk or paladin makes a better target. No healer is really survivable enough now that targeting them never makes sense under any circumstances (unless it's a hunter trying to kill the healer, lolz!).

edit: with that said, 1k resil is becoming a possibility for even the pure classes, so who knows what else is possible these days XD
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:27 PM

Uhm are u sure it was 37k hp? :confused:
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:52 PM

Yes i reached 36500+ health
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:57 PM

hunters do 2v2?
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:07 PM

Yes i reached 36500+ health


Ulduar 10 men last spot tank?

On a serious side, I wouldn't go for it, I guess damage would be... lol
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:15 PM

You lose some AP and crit but HVWild makes up for some of the AP loss.

Trakkeh do you have your total AP/Crit loss vs total stamina gain?

I'm curious to see what the numbers are.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:24 PM

With full Furious gear unbuffed (done on chardev with a draenei as race)

Hit-cap
29.96% crit
4173 ap


33485 HP
23% dodge chance
1016 resi


Note: only used stamina ring enchants.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:24 PM

i dicked around on my hunter (valir of magtheridon orc male US realm)


Using a couple of PVE pieces, and the rest pvp, using 24 stam ringenchant and 90 stam bracer enchant than socketed PURE stam after that and specced 5/15/51


I came out with teh following:


31.02 crit
4033 AP
152 hit
34555 HP


seems kinda lawl maybe? (this is with a priest, and im wearing my regular set ATM, socketed for damage, because i enjoy having 4933 ap unbuffed)
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:27 PM

This might be something to do with ret,MM or SV,Healer 3v3 since you're the target more often, Blessing of Might helps cover some of the stat loss.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:28 PM

Think most pvp geared hunters would lose around 500 ap and 5%~ crit chance, but gain over 10k hp.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:30 PM

No levidian, dont have the numbers exactly, since i only experienced some on TR, testing it's viability. But the damageloss is not that intense and im seriously considering trying this.

EDIT: Running with a priest (as i am) would increase the health even more + your pets gets mad health aswell so it wont die to some DK AoE or shit like that
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:49 PM

Run priest/ret 3v3 and get kings /lol
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:56 PM

Seems like a pretty lol build -- with 15% extra stam from talents and 30% stam to AP conversion, this could actually turn out pretty nice. Anyone know a tool I could use to plan it out?
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:59 PM

Seems like a pretty lol build -- with 15% extra stam from talents and 30% stam to AP conversion, this could actually turn out pretty nice. Anyone know a tool I could use to plan it out?


http://www.chardev.org/?c
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