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#141 nokta

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:57 PM

The only thing I can complain about as a warrior is 70% crip poison. Because crip is that much slower than hamstring, it forces me to try to RNG the rogue and leaves for many frustrating games.
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#142 Tya

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:59 PM

In every fucking thread about rogues. If we bottled your tears, we could solve the fresh water shortages in 3rd world countries.


I don't recall bitching about rogues in this thread. Keep imagining stuff though, it's entertaining.

So touchy.
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#143 sarinn

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 08:16 PM

i agree, if you guys were more productive in giving suggestions instead of thinking every rogue thread as a qqnerf thread, maybe we'd get somewhere.

anyway, i think this thread has gone offtrack. thank you for the suggestions and input from the ones who participated.
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#144 Zanny

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 08:32 PM

Everything I post is wrong and biased in favor of making rogues 1 shot raids and me getting a furious glad title for logging on.

I think people honestly hate rogues in general though, just because of the way the class is designed.
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#145 Loridan

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 05:39 AM

The only thing I can complain about as a warrior is 70% crip poison. Because crip is that much slower than hamstring, it forces me to try to RNG the rogue and leaves for many frustrating games.


your mobility is supreme compared to a rogue, no more from you.
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#146 sarinn

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:08 AM

Everything I post is wrong and biased in favor of making rogues 1 shot raids and me getting a furious glad title for logging on.

I think people honestly hate rogues in general though, just because of the way the class is designed.


yeah i think ill admit i hate rogues, but there is none of that in any of what im posting.
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#147 Pitiless

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:10 AM

Finally, not everyone jumps combo to whatever the FotM partner happens to be.


Did you 2v2 with that paladin that you got glad with in s5 in s4 as well? Or did you play with a druid? Just wondering.
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#148 Loridan

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 10:29 AM

come now, fotm is different from blizzard fucking up the game for a season.
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#149 Ifix

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:21 PM

Did you 2v2 with that paladin that you got glad with in s5 in s4 as well? Or did you play with a druid? Just wondering.


He played with the pally in both S4 and S3 if i remember correctly.
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#150 Tya

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:22 PM

Did you 2v2 with that paladin that you got glad with in s5 in s4 as well? Or did you play with a druid? Just wondering.


Yeah I did, played with a paladin in S4.

And I managed to miss the post right above my own.
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#151 Lieto

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:59 PM

What can you possibly nerf on rogues?

1. Mobility — more or less blows already, cant nerf it.
2. "Powerful cooldowns" — i am not joking there but not being able to reliably vanish or clos or sprint (lol chain col) alrdy cost me at least every fifth game and thats if i am lucky.
3. MS effect — its hard to abolish if you want to tank rogue now but still its nowhere near aimed shot or ms. Considering warriors can make it 75%. And you dont need to tank rogues because of N1 — just kite, dispel and heal whenever you need.
4. Slow effect — only strong side is that its auto-applicable. Other then that 50% undispelable slow effect with 25% chance to root looks at least just as strong.
4. Survivability — God it sucks. Rogue is probably the only class that can die in >4 seconds vs 1 dps. We have those evasion and clos but it doesnt change the fact that we can get killed in 4 seconds.
5. Burst out of stealth — thats what most of you want nerfed — but hey, look above, what will we have left? subpar sustained damage with sht survivability and mobility doesnt go good together. AND its not that hard to deny rogue their opener for half of the classes there or at least pre-hot, pre-shield to deny half of the opener damage if not more.


I am sorry if this looks like i want to say that rogues are bad atm, no we are not. But in comparison to lets say warrior, ret or dk we are possibly the last melee class to need nerfs.
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#152 Tya

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 01:11 PM

Well according to GC, rets and arms warriors are to be nerfed anyway.
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#153 Powerslave

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 01:24 PM

not that binds matter but 29 TOTAL keybinds is pretty low :)
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:32 PM

Nerf vanish until it works.


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