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#41 webb

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 01:08 AM

Your shaman shouldn't get solo'd by a destro lock considering he has grounding, shocks and can LoS easily if the rogue is peeled off him.
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:08 AM

hmmm, will tell him about it... thanks for the advice =)
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:03 PM

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 12:45 AM

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#45 ronberk

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 05:25 AM

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 09:31 AM

played 100+ games today... went up to 1994, then dropped all the way to 1870... sigh...

war druid war druid war druid, this comp is outright ridiculous...

i have to go on war, and war just eats me even when im sitting at 700+ resil....

druid just hots him and then runs off to eat.... my shaman cant get his eyes off me as once he stops healing i drop to 0% in moment of seconds....

if war goes on my shaman my shaman goes oom healing himself with me peeling war off as much as i could....

someone advice on this comp please...
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#47 ronberk

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:12 PM

We only have one good rogue shaman in our Bg, theyre around 2600 ATM. The only way we ever lose is if the rogue forces me to blow my trinket, the shaman immediately bloodlusts, the rogue blinds me then rocketboots vanishes and has to catch my druid in caster form with a CS and kill the druid with help of burst from the shaman.

If the rogue and shaman fail to kill the druid in this time and the warrior can peel and they can catch up, I think it's pretty much over. You won't win an outlast game, the druid can't be hexed, and unless the rogue has on a lot of PvE gear they really won't land a kill on the warrior.

I've only played one good rogue/shaman, but we've played them about 8 times, and this has been the outcome every time. If the druid is maintaining his distance and has enough time to shift into tree or bear before the rogue can vanish and open up on him after the warrior is blinded, I don't think they can beat druid/warrior. If the rogue wears a lot of PvE gear though anything is possible.
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:18 PM

In addition to my previous post I think I should say not to get too frustrated with druid/warrior; if they play correcting I believe they are a soft counter to you. Shaman/Rogue has an edge over Rogue/Priest, which is how most Shaman/Rogue teams can rank so high.

Everything is very Rock/Paper/Scissors atm. Warrior/Druid might be good vs you, but they get farmed by Warrior/Pally. Warrior/Pally gets farmed by Rogue/Priest which in turn gets farmed by Shaman/Rogue. So although every one of those teams can beat each other, some makeups will win a higher % of the time vs their respective soft counters.
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#50 ronberk

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 09:04 PM

thx for the advice, however im meeting like almost all warrior druid teams today... sigh..

got tanked to 1750... 25 hours gameplay... guess we got so screwed....
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:10 AM

It just takes a lot of coordination and awareness of when cools or down and up, I would recommend getting Pearl Unit Frames, and Gladius. Always try to be aware of when the warriors trinket is down, and when faerie fire falls off you. Try to arrange a time where the druid is in caster form and moderately close to you, and the warriors PvP trinket is down and you'll get a kill with a successful swap to the druid. Just don't blow cloak until you swap to druid so you can get the FF off and vanish sprint to land a CS.
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 04:12 AM

ah.. ok... thanks for the tips... so theres no other way besides killing the druid?
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 04:29 AM

btw, anyone kind enough to advice on warlock/healer teams?

i find that it is nearly impossible to down either the warlock or the healer... basically even if i try to stick to the lock, the lock is going to instant howl of terror, then chain fear and dot me.. when i get him low, he will portal and my poisons will wear off, then he kites me....

my shaman ends up ooming because the lock is dotting both of us up...

someone advice us on this please =S
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:46 AM

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:23 PM

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 07:00 AM

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 06:37 PM

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:25 PM

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 04:43 AM

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 11:01 AM

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