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#1 Maddlexie

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:41 PM

Just theory Crafting, main one would probably be SL Destro

22/41/8 is a spec some are trying for maximum survival.
http://www.arenajunk...6961#post826961


Felguard Destro/Crit Spec
http://talent.mmo-ch...06&version=9767
15% crit +3% from baclash + 5% from Firestone (looking at almost 40% in proper gear) 5% dmg from felguard, felguard also does a ton of damage.
36% Passive dmg Reduction + Nether Prot
Damage is all casted


Soul Link DestroUpdated for Replenish Nerf
http://talent.mmo-ch...02&version=9767

Patch 3.1 brought more viability to destro. Conflags went from 2k hit to 4.5k Hits and crits from 4k to 8-9k.

Chaos bolt damage was greatly increased. (4k none crits/8k crits)

My general goal in arena is to set up burst with a Curse of Elements, Immolate and then
Chaos Bolt >>> Conflagif I have shadowfury and I think it will help land a kill
Chaos >> Aim & Cast Shadowfury >> Conflag
followed by Shadowburn

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Affliction Soul Link
http://talent.mmo-ch...02&version=9767
Still a viable spec
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#2 Streygo

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:47 PM

Id think getting points in imp shadowbolt would probably be better for that felguard/backlash spec.

Youll be using bolt as your main attack and getting off alot of backlashes, the extra crit and damage on bolt seems liek a good idea.

ends up being

10%crit from DT
5% from deva
5% from imp shadowbolt
3% from backlash
3% from imp firestone

and also what do you think about getting decimate with that build?
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#3 Streygo

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:57 PM

http://talent.mmo-ch...00&version=9767

Somethings are diffrent from madd's spec

I take Demonic brutality over fel synergy.

Decimation over 2pts in Demonic Resilience

Imp Shadowbolt over Cataclysm and destructive reach.
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#4 Ikkeh

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:59 PM

Just theory Crafting, main one would probably be SL Destro


http://talent.mmo-ch...06&version=9767

Felguard Destro
15% crit + a few % from Firestone (looking at almost 40% in proper gear) 5% dmg from felguard, felguard also does a ton of damage.
36% Passive dmg Reduction + Nether Prot
Damage is all casted


Very interesting Felguard Spec you came up with. I'd like to try Decimation with that to see how that flows too :P

I'm going to experiment around with Felguard Destro and see how that works out in a 3's or 5's. Probably just do the CB/SL Destro for 2's.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:08 PM

http://talent.mmo-ch...00&version=9767

Somethings are diffrent from madd's spec

I take Demonic brutality over fel Vitality.

Decimation over 2pts in Demonic Resilience

Imp Shadowbolt over Cataclysm and destructive reach.
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#6 Jarik

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:16 PM

17/54 or 20/51 for me...probably 17/54 since i play with a rogue
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:17 PM

Is everyone just going to use felhunter now instead of succy for SL/destro?
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#8 Glickz

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:21 PM

succubus isnt good
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#9 hertzuk

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:31 PM

succubus isnt good


in a 2 dps comp, as destro, i'd beg to differ.

well, at least as lock/rogue anyway, lock/mage has poly glyph...

lock/spriest too i think succubus COULD work, maybe...


on the whoel succubus is terrible tho and these are the only times i can really think of it being any use (and mainly just to remove dot's before blind). Devour magic is always going to be more important.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:55 PM

Just theory Crafting, main one would probably be SL Destro


http://talent.mmo-ch...06&version=9767

Felguard Destro
15% crit + a few % from Firestone (looking at almost 40% in proper gear) 5% dmg from felguard, felguard also does a ton of damage.
36% Passive dmg Reduction + Nether Prot
Damage is all casted



http://talent.mmo-ch...02&version=9767
Soulink Destro
Chaos bolt, huge damage buff, could easily see 9k-10k in arena
Conflag, huge buff also, 8k crits I’ve heard
If you can get one
Immolate

And then Chaos bolt into a Shadow fury into a conflag = pretty much a shatter every 24 seconds

Or just any Casted into a instant, mini shatter




http://talent.mmo-ch...02&version=9767
Soulink Aff
Could be dead spec, Idk


0-17-54 sounds pretty good to me... Huge burst potential but still weak vs. melee classes.

54-17-0 sounds like dead but don't underestimate the new Malediction, which adds +9% crit to UA/Corr. I have like 15% crit, so it's pretty realistic to land some DoT crits on mid-resil targets

http://talent.mmo-ch...00&version=9767

FG/Destro stays almost the same... SF/Shadowburn as execute nuke will be pretty interesting ;)
sucks vs. melees as usual -_-
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What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. lol :(

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 11:15 PM

ye, sl/des~~~
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:53 AM

ARRRRGGGG I'm just casting on a target dummy w/ the new affliction and it's like umm wtf do i do now? I have 3 dots to put up -_-
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#13 Maddlexie

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 02:50 AM

** change the destro 0/17/54 to Replenlish, 3/5 fire and brim

and the felguard destro to 5/5 shadowbolt,
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 03:21 AM

yeah I might as well spec replenishment kinda too mana intensive and since succubus supposedly sucks i guess.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:20 PM

I don't think replenishment will hold much value in double/triple dps comps but I'd definitely pick it up with a healer in either bracket. I haven't looked into the cookie cutter Mage builds yet for 3s but I think my partner has picked up the replenishment talent anyways so that saves a couple talent points.

On that note I think 3/3 soul leech is worth picking up in a double dps situation mainly vs. DK setups. 1 conflag hit in its current state will heal you for 900 alone, so I'm curious as to how much it will actually heal in a 1-2 minute fight.

Also as far as the Succubus is concerned I would not use it in any comp outside of Mage/Lock 2s. If you play with a Rogue you'll need dispels + a CS much more than with a Mage. A Rogue also offers better peels so you're free to cast (fear) more often. The recent nerf doesn't help its cause much either.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 02:55 PM

Very interesting Felguard Spec you came up with. I'd like to try Decimation with that to see how that flows too :P

I'm going to experiment around with Felguard Destro and see how that works out in a 3's or 5's. Probably just do the CB/SL Destro for 2's.


credits for the felguard/backlash specc to me pls!!

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#17 Faxmonkey

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:26 AM

in a 2 dps comp, as destro, i'd beg to differ.

well, at least as lock/rogue anyway, lock/mage has poly glyph...

lock/spriest too i think succubus COULD work, maybe...


on the whoel succubus is terrible tho and these are the only times i can really think of it being any use (and mainly just to remove dot's before blind). Devour magic is always going to be more important.



Succubus is probably ok for double DPS comps, and even then you'll probably swap to felhunter for your second pet against certain comps.

Seduce and Polymorph, in particular, are a great team. They do not share DR and both last 10/5/2.5 seconds. Which basically means that you do one till dr, then do the other till Dr, the first one is off DR. In other words, you can *full time* cc a player of your choosing. That's very powerful.
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#18 Kluian

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 02:42 PM

Torment has said the only time its worth using a succy is when playing with a mage and I dont think anyone has disputed that.
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#19 gagegg

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 02:48 PM

I've been using it in 3s all s5 but I'm not sure how viable it actually is against higher quality teams.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:25 PM

Torment has said the only time its worth using a succy is when playing with a mage and I dont think anyone has disputed that.


I ran it with a ret pally.
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