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#21 Felic

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:00 PM

on my druid i've died in HoJs pretty regularly when the wings were popped =/ you guys also like 1 shot lock pets.


So youre saying any other physical class doesnt shit all over pets? and if you die in a HoJ you are pretty terrible, u can keep 3xlifebloom and treeform and do the "gg dance" untill oom.
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:o i didnt c wat u did thar, could you explain for us dumb ppl?


#22 Krimsta

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:07 PM

Why are ret's op?

Take a resto Shaman. Take a Ret Pally. That Ret Pallies utility has covered all of the Shaman's weaknesses. Should 1 class do that? Nope. It's why Holy Pallies are currently op; their utility (BoF, Replenishment, CC chaining) makes DK's much more dangerous than they actually are... Shaman/DK, albeit strong, isn't as strong as Pally/DK will ever be, likewise Ret/Sham will be much stronger than Pally/Ret would be.
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#23 metharon

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:15 PM

^ nailed it.

The dps over a fight isn't all that OP, but since it comes in big fucknig chuncks str8 into your face every 7 sec then it starts getting dumb
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#24 Ifix

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:18 PM

The same reason ferals were nerfed,apart from the fact that you have better survivability,magic damage,and dont go oom after 3 heals
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#25 Iddqd

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:20 PM

better survivability

A feral druid complaining about survivability.
ehehehe
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#26 Lysander

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:21 PM

Total guess here.. because every 30 seconds a Ret Paladin can kill anyone in the duration of a HoJ (without heals), and Ret teams generally have ways to CC healers for the duration of a HoJ?
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#27 amerge

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:24 PM

So youre saying any other physical class doesnt shit all over pets? and if you die in a HoJ you are pretty terrible, u can keep 3xlifebloom and treeform and do the "gg dance" untill oom.


or he repentances me while i have hots on me, while i'm CCING, then he switches to me with a hoj after some of my hots fall off?

okay, so i'll just make sure to sit in tree form and spam heal the locks pet for 1 minute, and then i'm completely oom :)
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:25 PM

it shows how broken ret is when double healer ret paladin works.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:29 PM

it shows how broken ret is when double healer ret paladin works.

replenishment should not function in arena
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#30 Ifix

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:38 PM

A feral druid complaining about survivability.
ehehehe
hehhe
heeehhehe


right,survivability against anything but warriors and rogues then,because y'know,there's lots of those in high rated arena!

P.S magic damage.
and bears dont kill healers,so no.
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#31 lesmock

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:47 PM

it shows how broken ret is when double healer ret paladin works.


FYI it works with Hunters and DKs too.
And in 2.4 it worked with Rogues, Warriors and Warlocks.
If so, all these classes are/were broken.

Double healer works/worked with almost every melee ingame.
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#32 Iddqd

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:52 PM

Hunters, Rogues, and Warriors have healing debuffs and their damage is based around them. It is/was perfectly fine for them to be viable in double healer setups.
Warlocks are a different story because double healer warlock was a complete turtle comp that only worked because healing was way too strong for most of BC and warlocks created pressure through multi target dotting, which was/is easily healable, rather than a healing debuff.

DKS and rets work in double healer comps because their damage is completely fucking stupid.
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#33 Zanny

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:53 PM

I have absolutely no more fun on the tourney than HoJ -> 3 shot someone, as long as they arnt plate / mail.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:56 PM

Ret pallies--- Find the best rogue you can find and duel him. Then again... and again...

Do a best of 5 and let us know how it goes.
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#35 Iddqd

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:57 PM

Ret pallies--- Find the best rogue you can find and duel him. Then again... and again...

Do a best of 5 and let us know how it goes.

Second HoJ = Certain death.
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#36 Ackra

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:59 PM

Ret pallies--- Find the best rogue you can find and duel him. Then again... and again...

Do a best of 5 and let us know how it goes.


dueling is the skillz
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#37 Fatflufybird

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 04:05 PM

Double healer/Ret is just the most retarded thing.

Iddqdlol pretty much explained it perfectly why double healer/hunter for example worked back then with cc's and ms debuff, but when ret can do it without a ms debuff... that is saying something.
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#38 amerge

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 04:24 PM

FYI it works with Hunters and DKs too.
And in 2.4 it worked with Rogues, Warriors and Warlocks.
If so, all these classes are/were broken.

Double healer works/worked with almost every melee ingame.


it worked with those classes due to them having an MS/drain

Ret x2 healer relies on strings of RNG.
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#39 amerge

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 04:27 PM

Umm yea L2 bearform... unless ur resto u shouldnt be able to be crit'd down that fast....



U seriuos..... huge representation in 2's.... u might want to re check ur statement and check the spec of those pally u refering to in 2's guess wat spec they are..... urs.... not ret
and our CC are insane... HoJ our stun has to be wasted as a CC.... have u seen hunters CC or that matter mage CC or even lock CC lock can CC a 2v2 by himself the DPS and the healer..... and not kiteable why cuz we can maintian a 8 sec Judgment on any target... wow 6k dmg over 8 sec plz 2 lock dot put out just as much dps and u cant run away form them either....


bad troll is bad :(
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 04:29 PM

I've been at 80% before

autoattack, judge, dead

judgement crit me for 8.5k on with 550 resilience

ret does waaaaaay too much damage, get over it
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