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#281 Grombringal

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:09 PM

This thread is gold.
WotLK at its finest :o
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#282 Typh

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:11 PM

Okay, so you had EP on you. The paladin was probably using wings and mabie even had up some other things like 3 stacks veng and possibly hysteria or something else...

You probably weren't in frost stance and were in unholy or blood using pve gear.


he had wings + EP
i wasnt in frost presence because this was a fast switch to me while i was stunned and im not using hardly any pve gear

anyway more to the point of the post, its still OP that a paladin can do a 10k crit, by pressing 2 buttons; wings then hitting judgment button - it requires no skill to judgment someone compared to setting up somthing like a shatter combo

once again in before QQ more your DK posts, i know DK's are overpowered im not comparing ret to a DK, im just stating that 6-10k 1button crits which dont require any type of combination of skill to setup shouldnt be possible
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#283 Eriul

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:54 PM

i know DK's are overpowered




Now if only holy paladins/ferals/ret paladins/hunters could admit the same...
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Posted 08 April 2009 - 10:04 PM

i crit a rogue for 12k on my DK.... in 3v3 so
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#285 Krimsta

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:45 AM

The only problem with Ret Pallies, all Pallies really, is Vindication. Retribution is balanced. If you think Retribution is overpowered get some more resilience.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 07:37 AM

The only problem with Ret Pallies, all Pallies really, is Vindication. Retribution is balanced. If you think Retribution is overpowered get some more resilience.


Yay a smart player! :)
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#287 Grisham

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:17 AM

I'd be OK with a nerf to vindication (like 10%) or change it completely (can I dare to say a snare?:P)

Btw on the current TOP EU&US Tournament 3c3:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/

Number of Ret: NULL

Was a time when they was ONE (on 60 players)

Yeah definitely OP....

Oh and resto drood&war are clealy UP there's just one of them - you'll be buffed people, you deserve it so ffs stop crying on us!
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#288 Nez

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:22 AM

ITT: wotlk pve champ rets!
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#289 Mearis

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:37 AM

ret paladin representation doesn't reflect the real potential of the class because even if ret paladins were mildly overpowered, holy paladins are so hilariously overpowered that anyone who wants glad will just spec holy and find a non-completely-retarded hunter or dk.
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#290 Pobzy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:44 AM

Ret isn't OP, ret is ridiculously stupid and awfully balanced.

There's not much you can do except wait till you rape someone in 2 globals as ret.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:32 AM

The only thing OP about the ret pal is vindication. To burst someone to death there are a few conditions. No incoming heals, no hots, no panic buttons and no shields. That is a lot to ask. Like a shatter combo, you need some kind of preparation. You have to separate the team. And doing so is hard. Any serious player will not get pulled when a ret is around.
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#292 N3M0WEN

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 01:05 PM

Seriously, seriously.... Really, Really.... There's no point in trying to show these "ret is op" QQers that ret ain't OP. 30 Pages on this thread and it's still the same arguments. One ear and out the other, I give up.
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#293 Grisham

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 01:28 PM

You're right - let just smash them with our "OP" judgments and stuff and "rollface" to glad 'cause that's all we can do.

Meanwhile I will waste my time looking for some good conditional macros or how to upgrade my UI to be more reactive - not that I need it with my lolret spec but to pretend having to have a gameplay and skills.;)
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:45 PM

Seriously, seriously.... Really, Really.... There's no point in trying to show these "ret is op" QQers that ret ain't OP. 30 Pages on this thread and it's still the same arguments. One ear and out the other, I give up.


It's funny, I was thinking the same thing. What's the exact phrase in english? Something about a pot calling a kettle black or whatever.

That's right, you're just as narrow-minded as the "QQers".
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#295 N3M0WEN

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 05:37 PM

It's funny, I was thinking the same thing. What's the exact phrase in english? Something about a pot calling a kettle black or whatever.

That's right, you're just as narrow-minded as the "QQers".


pointless
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:13 PM

I love how ppl expect paladins to blindly roll whatever spec is OP and somehow think ret will make rise from 1% to 20% representation after the holy nerfs.

U can say that stuff about warriors, rogues and stuff, but hybrids ?
cmon srsly think for a second..
Ask any holy paladin, 80% of them will say they have allways been holy, 10% will say they where druids in TBC rerolling for easy gladiator and the other 10% where probably actual rets.

But I guess u cant understand if you have never played a hybrid before.
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#297 Algrumm

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:15 PM

I love how ppl expect paladins to blindly roll whatever spec is OP and somehow think ret will make rise from 1% to 20% representation after the holy nerfs.

U can say that stuff about warriors, rogues and stuff, but hybrids ?
cmon srsly think for a second..

But I guess u cant understand if you have never played a hybrid before.


All the ret paladins I know respecced to holy because it's free glad with a DK.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:21 PM

All the ret paladins I know respecced to holy because it's free glad with a DK.


just like all druids specced resto in s2-s4 ? ;)

hehe, duck and gone ^^
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:45 PM

pointless


Right.
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