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#21 bluetorch

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:03 PM

no idea, oh well back to old tactic ccing healers without damage on them and killing their dps rather than fear locking healer to death with full damage on him
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#22 Oomlock

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:03 PM

/petattack [target=tremor totem]


when i play against hunter shaman they just train my pet and he is getting randomly tnt'd, entrapped, and always slowed by frost trap....

yea hes not hitting those totems.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:05 PM

when i play against hunter shaman they just train my pet and he is getting randomly tnt'd, entrapped, and always slowed by frost trap....

yea hes not hitting those totems.


What are YOU doing just hiding behind a pillar and sending your pet across the arena to attack totems?
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:05 PM

WTB numbers :/ how much



Go on ptr and find out.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:06 PM

What are YOU doing just hiding behind a pillar and sending your pet across the arena to attack totems?


spending the game channeling health funnel because the other team is immune to fear.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:07 PM

Go on ptr and find out.

I wish i could.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

no idea, oh well back to old tactic ccing healers without damage on them and killing their dps rather than fear locking healer to death with full damage on him


So basically back to using long duration control ability as a long duration control ability just like everyone else with a high duration CC has to do.

The change is good for the health of the game where fear isn't just used as a blanket cast that's valuable on anyone you cast it on at basically any time.

If warlocks can lean less on fear then It might open you guys up to getting improvements in other areas if necessary (which in turn can help the class out in the long run being more well rounded) For example warlocks still don't have an O shit button like iceblock etc.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:11 PM

Well seriosly its not that hard just fear healer without damage on him and focus damage on 1 target.

Same way paladins were dominated by warlocks in s1-4.

fear after bubble = dead friend
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:11 PM

So basically back to using long duration control ability as a long duration control ability just like everyone else with a high duration CC has to do.

The change is good for the health of the game where fear isn't just used as a blanket cast that's valuable on anyone you cast it on at basically any time.


While what you say is true, warlocks lack a lot of what other classes have. Namely immunity effects, burst, and multiple CCs that don't share DR.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:12 PM

So basically back to using long duration control ability as a long duration control ability just like everyone else with a high duration CC has to do.

The change is good for the health of the game where fear isn't just used as a blanket cast that's valuable on anyone you cast it on at basically any time.

If warlocks can lean less on fear then It might open you guys up to getting improvements in other areas if necessary (which in turn can help the class out in the long run being more well rounded) For example warlocks still don't have an O shit button like iceblock etc.


thats not even an option when the best healer (paladins) have 50% off fear duration.

they will just get out and holy shock their partner back to full health because we have no burst.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:13 PM

/petattack [target=tremor totem]


Frost trap, scrub.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:14 PM

why does levidia post back to back so much?
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:14 PM

Except for the fact that the majority of teams that are DPS/Healer the dps has really high survivability (hunters and dk's especially)

it won't be impossible, but it'll be harder
especially because deathcoil was a cc and damage, so you lost 1k damage on your kill target


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I can see Shaman teams really bending Warlocks over now
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:16 PM

Fear protection with unstable will be hit with this change also,we either will not protect the fear or let it break after 2 ticks which will make the first fear 6sec.
Moreover our ability to change targets when we dot someone will be crippled cause we will not be able to cc him
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:17 PM

I can see Shaman teams really bending Warlocks over now

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:17 PM

While what you say is true, warlocks lack a lot of what other classes have. Namely immunity effects, burst, and multiple CCs that don't share DR.


Affliction warlocks lack those things.

I don't know if I changed any minds with any blogs I've posted or not but I think blizzard is starting to realize affliction is (and you really can't deny it) an extremely hard tree to balance due to it's damage delivery (which I've mentioned before).

Hopefully destruction becomes a well rounded tree and it already has a lot going for it with the ability to become a good fast paced PvP class.

Do people actually like the affliction tank/dot play style?

Regardless I hope you guys end up with a good fun balanced tree for 3.1 destruction looks like ridiculous fun.
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:19 PM

why does levidia post


been wondering the same thing
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:20 PM

Destro still relies on everything being casted and immolate which can be dispelled. Not going to work outside a few comps
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:20 PM

if locks need to be compensated in different areas thats fine, but fear being used as a "stun" was broken. it was one thing when fearing a target while DPSing had completely random results (could easily break instantly, effectively wasting a DR), but now that its entirely predictable and you can "fearlock" someone by stacking up dots during the first long duration one, and chaining it into new ones before it ends, with no fear of it breaking (since you know the set damage required to break it).

honestly was playing 2s the other day against lock/pali, and about ten minutes into the game i ate a fear where my tremor got stomped, and my trinket was down (yes the first fear over a 10 minute game where this happened). I was at 100% with riptide running, and said to my partner "yea i'm dead my tremor got stomped". sure enough that fear got chained into two new fears which were about to end around 40% when i inevitably ate the hoj and died. there is no way you should be able to eat a fear at 100% with no dots, and hots rolling, and ~know~ you are going to die, since fear has such a high damage cap with no chance of breaking if the lock knows its limits
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