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#21 Kluian

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 03:55 PM

Hunters rape felhunters.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 03:56 PM

... How would anyone be taken from 100% hp to 0% hp in 1 fear?


It happens all the time, at least on live.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:00 PM

Hunters rape felhunters.



yea but if the healer isnt dumb.. he will keep it alive

im not saying hunters dont rape felhunters but.. if he keeps it alive.. the warlock can be like lol aoe fear and kill him in those 7 seconds.. with a dcoil
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#24 Kluian

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:01 PM

If a locks healer is spam healing a felhunter he will run oom way before your healer will. All it takes is a bad entrap on the healer or tnt on the pet and you can gib it no problem.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:09 PM

pet dies if your healers a retard


No sir, pet dies because its easy to kill

Not if my healer is a retard
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:10 PM

It happens all the time, at least on live.


Fear breaks after 20% hp / 24% with glyph

How are you going to die after losing only 20% hp?
You must be bad
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:12 PM

People say they die in one fear because of all the burst you can tack on at the end of the a fear, and since it all essentially hits within a second or so they say they die within a fear.

They're not ACTUALLY getting 100->0 in one fear, although fear does set such things up.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:12 PM

yea but if the healer isnt dumb.. he will keep it alive

im not saying hunters dont rape felhunters but.. if he keeps it alive.. the warlock can be like lol aoe fear and kill him in those 7 seconds.. with a dcoil


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Also I've heard of these crazy things called pillars and pvp trinkets

crazy new concept, I know
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:13 PM

People say they die in one fear because of all the burst you can tack on at the end of the a fear, and since it all essentially hits within a second or so they say they die within a fear.

They're not ACTUALLY getting 100->0 in one fear, although fear does set such things up.


From a Warlock alone its impossible to start at 100% hp and end up at 0% hp after what seemed like a single Fear

It is IMPOSSIBLE
You can test it all you want but it'll never even come close to looking like it was only 1 fear
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:15 PM

If I already have UA / corr / coa / siphon on a paladin with CS / DC up its entirely possible to gib them if bubble is down and their partner is CCed.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:24 PM

I get raped by pala/lock all the time. They come in aoe fear,normal fear, dc, silence, hoj and im dead(i die sometimes even before dc, with pala dpsing ofc). If I dont dont die they just wait a bit and start again.

Maybe i can win the mana battle!!! oh wait nvm, im a resto druid
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:30 PM

Learn to LoS those <1 sec cast, 30+% hasted fears, bro.

Honestly if I didn't play with an amazing Shaman, Lock teams would be pretty annoying for me. But ofc I understand they counter Hunters in 2v2 so its no biggie.

10k conflag crits should be cool though, at least I play with a Lock in 3s :D
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:34 PM

What hirim said.

How the fuck can you be expected to LoS consistently with <<1 sec fear casts. Shaman/hunter can beat warlock teams once in a while, but Pala/hunter good fucking luck.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:43 PM

Frost trap + Hunter damage > warlock pet
Frost trap + ES > warlock damage delivery
Frost trap + Tremor totem > totem stomp
Entrapment > Warlock

If you're playing on live and with a shaman drag pet through frost traps until it dies. Your shaman can los the warlock and there will be no totemstomping.

If you play with a pally, los and dispel?

I'm not sure what the big secret is here, kill the pet in 2s and win.

3s is an entirely different story and you will probably get raped by shadowcleave every time.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:50 PM

Fear has a 1.5 second cast time (1.2 when we have haste and stuff).

All of your stuff is instant- Arcane shot, explosive shot, aimed shot which will make up like 60% of your DPS. Not to mention all of your DPS and Wyvern sting have a 41 yard range when the fear range is only 24 yards. You guys have 2 options, kite the warlock or LoS him.

Standing there and just shooting him is dumb, too easy and rarely works.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:57 PM

I lol'd at 1 sec cast fears.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 06:09 PM

Arcane shot, explosive shot


These share CD (just letting you know).
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 06:18 PM

Went 5-5 against #1 Lock-Pala in my bg, lost ALL games on BEM/Dalaran, won ALL games on Nagrand/Ruins.
What a coincidence! :)
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 06:20 PM

Standing there and just shooting him is dumb, too easy and rarely works.


Yeah that's definitely what we're doing!

Of course we're kiting, its just the problem is you can't dodge fears forever. Fear is devastating for Hunters not only because you're taking massive DoT damage while its on you, it also drops the Hunter's damage output to effectively 0, so getting feared even once really puts a Hunter behind on the damage/mana war.

I'm not saying Locks should be nerfed or anything because of this, its a counter class in 2v2, nothing wrong with that. I'm simply saying you shouldn't try to play it off as if Warlocks don't really counter Hunters in this manner, or that it's easy to just avoid fear casts all the time.
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 09:47 PM

Frost trap + Hunter damage > warlock pet
Frost trap + ES > warlock damage delivery
Frost trap + Tremor totem > totem stomp
Entrapment > Warlock

If you're playing on live and with a shaman drag pet through frost traps until it dies. Your shaman can los the warlock and there will be no totemstomping.

If you play with a pally, los and dispel?

I'm not sure what the big secret is here, kill the pet in 2s and win.

3s is an entirely different story and you will probably get raped by shadowcleave every time.


You make it sound like hunter > warlocks. Definitely the other way around. They're our counterclass so whatever it's fine. What I want to see fixed is the total RNG of fear.
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