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#41 Massacrelol

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:29 PM

I always thought Serennia has had some serious social issues, but the one thing i never thought was he was stupid... however, it seems painfully obvious to me that the issue with the comp is not the lock it's the fact the dk is doing more damage than the other three dps players combined. Is he in denial? He obviously notices it because he points it out...

And nerfing Demonic Circle so it has to be in LOS is completely stupid... i really hope they don't do that.
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#42 Qwey

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:33 PM

Sap should have a 6 second PvP duration.


Price you pay for having a triple dispel. Shaman/Priests can both cleanse with impunity.


well you can use purify for same cost tbh
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#43 kashflow

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:45 PM

Fear breaks after 20% of your max health. 24% glyphed. Period.

That's 4-5k damage for a 1.5 second cast, or a reliable 10 second CC when used on a target that isn't being damaged.

Funnily every other class can do 4-5k damage in an instant.


You really don't think thats too high? You can always EASILY get double feared, feared into HOJ, feared into deathcoil/spell lock and other retarded options. Personally, I don't think locks are super OP or anything like that, but fear definitely needs to be rethought, its always been one of the dumbest spells in the game.
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#44 Vlada

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:49 PM

it's pretty gay when you are in fear taking damage for couple of seconds from dots and then some stupid 5k crit from DK or w/e that breaks fear even tho it went way more then 20% of your HP in that hit
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#45 Tahaa

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 06:42 PM

Quick question off topic though. Does the 24% hp thingy counts when damage is absorbed by a priest shield? Or does it go through the whole shield then counts 24%?
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 06:59 PM

it's pretty gay when you are in fear taking damage for couple of seconds from dots and then some stupid 5k crit from DK or w/e that breaks fear even tho it went way more then 20% of your HP in that hit


its not like if you had control of your character you could stop the instant 5k crit anyway.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

its not like if you had control of your character you could stop the instant 5k crit anyway.


Why yes, yes it can be done. Things like Cloak of Shadows, or the ability to heal yourself, or run around a pole are all ways to not die that you cant do while feared.

Fear is good. Polymorph is a good ability. Polymorph heals the target and breaks on any damage. It has the same cast time. It is easier to dispel.

I think the thing that makes fear bad for me, personally, is instant howl of terror, deathcoil, and UA + other dots protecting it from dispel.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:11 PM

Play vs Hosebeast's team on the TR and watch what happens to you inside a fear.

Hellfire combat exploit, fear pathing on Sewers, Z-axis demonic ports under the bridge on Blade's edge, and getting dumped on while still feared are some of the many joys of playing his comp.

When I played lock at 70, a single direct dmg spell would break fear ( immolate, nightfall..). At 80, it's not uncommon to see fear + 5 dots + aimed shot + ES + killshot before fear breaks.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:38 PM

Play vs Hosebeast's team on the TR and watch what happens to you inside a fear.

Hellfire combat exploit, fear pathing on Sewers, Z-axis demonic ports under the bridge on Blade's edge, and getting dumped on while still feared are some of the many joys of playing his comp.

When I played lock at 70, a single direct dmg spell would break fear ( immolate, nightfall..). At 80, it's not uncommon to see fear + 5 dots + aimed shot + ES + killshot before fear breaks.


Pretending that the attacks that broke the Fear were actually done during the Fear and therefore count in the percentage before Fear break is becoming extremely trendy.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:43 PM

Fear breaks after 20% of your max health. 24% glyphed. Period.

That's 4-5k damage for a 1.5 second cast, or a reliable 10 second CC when used on a target that isn't being damaged.

Funnily every other class can do 4-5k damage in an instant.


Funnily? The other most common 10 second CCs break on 1 pt of damage.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:44 PM

i would like to know what levidian thinks about it


Thanks about what exactly?
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

Funnily? The other most common 10 second CCs break on 1 pt of damage.


The other most common MS effects require melee range to apply.

See what I did there?
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:50 PM

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:51 PM

Shadowcleave


STOP STEALING SERENNIA'S IDEAZ
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:53 PM

The other most common MS effects require melee range to apply.

See what I did there?


I see you tried to ignore a discussion on one of the most imbalanced abilities in the game.

Fear is easily one of the most imbalanced abilities currently on live and will arguably be the most imbalanced post 3.1
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:54 PM

Funnily? The other most common 10 second CCs break on 1 pt of damage.



Yea and those classes don't use dots to kill.

And serrenia should look at the EU stats and maybe think a bit.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:55 PM

stfu levidia u stupid fuck
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:56 PM

hehehehehehe
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:59 PM

I see you tried to ignore a discussion on one of the most imbalanced abilities in the game.

Fear is easily one of the most imbalanced abilities currently on live and will arguably be the most imbalanced post 3.1


Actually the one ignoring the stream of the conversation is you. See, your response could be one of two things:

"You're right, instant Aimed Shot is broken OP."
or
"Comparing the Hunter class's MS to other classes' MS's is an unfair comparison because they have a very different set of abilities and limitations."

I'm guessing your response would have been something closer to the second one, had you not "ignored" the conversation.

Which, of course, would have led us to taking that logic right back to Warlocks with regard to attempting to compare Fear to Polymorph.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:03 PM

hunter MS>all other MS
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