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#21 Klöjvert

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:36 PM

90s cd, 10s duration, baseline skill


*giggle*
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:37 PM

doesnt change the fact its not a 45s blind which both of you are trying to say, its not
i may be lack knowledge of rogue, you got no idea about a hunter and basicly little about a game as well

rogue should not whine about cc anyway having opponent in stun 1/3 of a time, saping, dismantling etc
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:39 PM

how does not reading patch notes make you bad/dumb/etc?
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:50 PM

how does not reading patch notes make you bad/dumb/etc?

whining on sth that you already know is nerfed not only a single aspect id call a dumb attitude
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#25 nattehfat

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:51 PM

Nat is right, rogues are way op, we should nerf them!

ye in like first 30 seconds, dies way to easily when without cooldowns, rogue needs serious changes, same as hunters
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:52 PM

Nat is right, rogues are way op, we should nerf them!


hell yes we should, blind on same DR as poly at least.

wyvern, repentance, hex vs. blind, poly, fear - does anything ring a bell?
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:02 PM

yeah my bad, it is much weaker

one is dispelled by 3 classes

one is dispelled by 3 classes and 2 racials

same cd

wyv has longer range
same duration
both break on damage

what was I thinking when I compared two abilities that are so different?


Wyv-Sham, Pally, Druid, totems
Repent- Priest, Paladin

And hosiery if you actually tried reading wyvern glyph is changed to 6 seconds therefor no one will be using it.

I think they should have found a better medium for Wyvern like 8 seconds just like blind hex etc. just because it's dispelled by alot of things
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:07 PM

Blind can be done in *melee* range and costs energy which can be vital in burst situation.Sting is like * i click on gladius and press R and we win*
Propably blizzard does not want to be facepalmed in the tournament with top 20 teams beeing hunters/shaman.
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:23 PM

Wyv-Sham, Pally, Druid, totems (is this the new hero class?)
Repent- Priest, Paladin, Warrior (Berserker Rage)

And hosiery if you actually tried reading wyvern glyph is changed to 6 seconds therefor no one will be using it.

I think they should have found a better medium for Wyvern like 8 seconds just like blind hex etc. just because it's dispelled by alot of things


Fixed

If you are going to include totems (which can be stomped easily by you) then shouldn't you include Abolish Poison, Hand of Sacrifice, and SW: D which are all abilities that can be used preemptively to break Wyvern Sting?

Just asking because I am pretty sure totems are not a class, but an ability used by a class that can be dealt with. Like the above abilities can be dispelled or avoided.

So like I was saying, variance of repentance.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:36 PM

SW: Ding out of Wyvern is pretty much impossible because you can't ever see it coming the same way you can with Blind/Repent.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:42 PM

oh, and Hunters crying about Blind vs Wyvern, Dispersion vs Deterrence!
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:50 PM

Wyv-Sham, Pally, Druid, totems
Repent- Priest, Paladin

And hosiery if you actually tried reading wyvern glyph is changed to 6 seconds therefor no one will be using it.

I think they should have found a better medium for Wyvern like 8 seconds just like blind hex etc. just because it's dispelled by alot of things


warlocks.

And I'm pretty sure totems/shaman count as the same thing.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 12:04 AM

oh, and Hunters crying about Blind vs Wyvern, Dispersion vs Deterrence!

dispersion is better
other thing we dont need deterrence, mage/rogue autowin me and it doesnt help at all and vs healer/dpser its not worth to use it unless some special conditions
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 12:08 AM

Dispersion can't deflect anything in the air, so that's debatable in a spell that is supposed to reduce incoming damage.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:06 AM

neither can deterrence i think
+ can be used on stun - the main part
+ no facing requirement
+ cannot be countered by dismantle
- higher cooldown
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:10 AM

I would rather have dispersion easily
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:47 AM

other thing we dont need deterrence, mage/rogue autowin me and it doesnt help at all


what?
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:47 AM

I would rather have dispersion easily


me too. then i could stand in for sarth's deep breaths :(
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my 1300 resli shaman got nuked down by a rogue through roar of sac and masterscall over frost traps not to mention the discpriest spaming offensiveabilitys while i sat in blind/fear/dismantle/to fear again and when i was out double evasion cant touch rogue back into fear and well envom is worst than any war my shaman can heal through war damage but envom with discpriest = dead


MM hunter complaining about burst damage.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 03:43 AM

neither can deterrence i think
+ can be used on stun - the main part
+ no facing requirement
+ cannot be countered by dismantle
- higher cooldown


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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:12 AM

dispersion is better
other thing we dont need deterrence, mage/rogue autowin me and it doesnt help at all and vs healer/dpser its not worth to use it unless some special conditions


that's because you play with a priest, pick a paladin and the match up is pretty much autowin in your favour.
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