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#41 Kadrix

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:29 AM

Dunno what the coeff is, but mines hits for about 1500 in pvp gear (2050 sp).
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#42 Prov

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:35 AM

mine hit for about the same, ~1550 or so (2110 sp, pve specced right now), it's really cheap though (315 mana)
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I really hope blizzard does something about this. because the Impossibleness of cleave to beat any comp, really, is just an excruciating process that involves immense skill and luck. Buff warriors death knights and pallys, nerf mages and rogues.


#43 Mwiff

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:35 AM

Dunno what the coeff is, but mines hits for about 1500 in pvp gear (2050 sp).


That doesn't sound like it'd be too hard to handle then. Oh well, just gonna have to wait and see I suppose.
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#44 tysopz

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 12:14 PM

Imo holy paladins need more offensive spells, only have one useful dmg spell atm in holy shock, which is usually needed on CD anyway. As arena progress, we need another spell interrupt especially if imp hammer is down to 40 sec to be able to handle manaburns, cyclones etc

I don't how some palas say "it's really only a nerf to the bad paladins". Being forced to turtle 15 sec out of ever 1 min is going to hurt plenty, rather have DP on ~2 min cd. Also if imp hammer stays in holy and nothing awesome is added to prot i cant see any holy palas speccing prot.
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#45 phunk

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 12:25 PM

Glyph of Exorcism
Major Glyph
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 20
Use: Your Exorcism also interrupts spellcasting for 2 sec.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41103


now that paladin gets a ranged interupt which is kind of what we shamans live on and used to be good at...can I have bubble? Its not to whine or anything I'm just curious...come an how are they thinkin...
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#46 Prov

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 12:37 PM

now that paladin gets a ranged interupt which is kind of what we shamans live on and used to be good at...can I have bubble? Its not to whine or anything I'm just curious...come an how are they thinkin...


Can't you just go spew that trash on the official forums to get it out of your system?
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I really hope blizzard does something about this. because the Impossibleness of cleave to beat any comp, really, is just an excruciating process that involves immense skill and luck. Buff warriors death knights and pallys, nerf mages and rogues.


#47 Kelemvor

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 12:41 PM

now that paladin gets a ranged interupt which is kind of what we shamans live on and used to be good at...can I have bubble? Its not to whine or anything I'm just curious...come an how are they thinkin...


u have purge :P

well , divine plea needed a serious change :P but could be changed otherwise as some ppl stated, exorcism interrupt seems cool tho.
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#48 Kitore

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 01:07 PM

Haha, yea we have purge... we're so imba.

Definitely love all the paladins playing off Exorcism like it will be mediocre.

4k Shock -> HoJ -> Exor -> HoW

It's cool, your DK just has to get your target to 40%. GG
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#49 Blackhalo

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 02:00 PM

probably going to make imp hoj an 1 point talent reducing cd by 15 seconds or something retarded like that cuz u know a dispellable stun on a 30 second cd to a class that has next to no cc or means to interrupt casters is too good to be true

excuse my bitchy mood


No, you are 100% correct. Fuck you blizzard. Hurry up and release STarcraft 2 so I can stop playing your shitty game. (and instead play another one of your games lulz)
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#50 Qwey

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 02:35 PM

After sleeping on it, I'm not too upset about plea anymore. In PvE I overheal a fuck ton anyways so plea nerf means pretty much nothing and in PvP just pop plea in between holy shock CDs while kiting and you'll be fine.

Exorcism as damage is good regardless of glyph, more damage is more damage, particually if every one cast on demons is a crit, since that'll be a lot more dmg to burst gargoyles/ghouls/warlock pets. Hammer is fine at 1 minute, I haven't really played with it on 30 seconds because DP is so good, so if they are moving hammer down more, it'd be a nerf to ret. I was sort of under the impression the prot talent would reduce it more, giving prot a 10s interrupt like almost every other tanking class (aside from druids who have to use feral charge).
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#51 Vitrie

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:13 PM

After sleeping on it, I'm not too upset about plea anymore. In PvE I overheal a fuck ton anyways so plea nerf means pretty much nothing and in PvP just pop plea in between holy shock CDs while kiting and you'll be fine.
Hammer is fine at 1 minute, I haven't really played with it on 30 seconds because DP is so good, so if they are moving hammer down more, it'd be a nerf to ret.

Exactly why it isn't fine at 1 minute, it's not like Ret is amazing awesome overpowered as it stands or something. It's pretty much my only abilitiy to relieve pressure off my partner with, and at the same time my most important ability to score kills.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:56 PM

rets pretty fucking amazing in 3v3
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#53 Whillwinz

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 04:04 PM

I'm not sure what the debate here is about Plea. The blue is right, it is now an ability that you have to THINK ABOUT using and can't just spam every cooldown.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:04 PM

what is this whole matter about HOJ getting fucked? "ranks reduced" seems to me to be an anti-bloating change. Anyhow, Judgments of the just is NOT in holy, it is deep deep prot, so basically it is entirely useless unless it gets moved.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:08 PM

I predict "holy" paladins going deep, deep prot for 10 sec cd HoJ's, just like they're doing right now for repentance and JotW.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:17 PM

You have to go like 49 points prot for it, you can't just dip 30 points in and take it.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:23 PM

Not much of a holy paladin without holy shock
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:44 PM

I predict "holy" paladins going deep, deep prot for 10 sec cd HoJ's, just like they're doing right now for repentance and JotW.


10 seconds would just DR it.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 07:35 PM

I predict "holy" paladins going deep, deep prot for 10 sec cd HoJ's, just like they're doing right now for repentance and JotW.


Pretty sure it won't be 10 seconds. The reduced rank part indicates they're probably just moving most of the cooldown reduction to deep prot. It's a holy/ret nerf.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 07:43 PM

whoever is whining about the DP nerf just needs to quit the game because chances are you're probably a fucking idiot.

DP was out of control for holy paladins and the way the blue said it was perfect. We won't be able to use it mindlessly every minute. Damn, I actually have to think about the possible repercussions using DP may ensue.

and I wouldn't get our hopes up for exorcism. chances are they'll change the glyph. at least that's what my expectations are right now, despite i can't see how it would make us op. paladins need more variety in terms of their offensive play and I think this change would be a step into the right direction.
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