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#1 ProudToBeAWoman

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 07:27 AM

How do I beat survival?

I don't fucking get it.

The damage is unreal, no way I can win a mana war, their MS > mine.

Can't really outburst outside of quick cd's but there are a multitude of cc's at their disposal to stop my momentum.

And we all know with fury, if you don't get all your Recklessness hits off, fucking cancel that shit.

Do I go on the partner? I can see that as a viable strat vs a priest or some such, but even a shaman seems like a poor decision, the damage is just too much to deal with, I need to hamper it to some extent.

I really don't get it, and I lost a lot of fucking rating to survival/pally tonight.
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#2 Windwalk

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 08:32 AM

If you go on the partner he'll kill you whenever lock and load comes up

idk what a warrior can do, surv hunters gib pretty much anything, I guess you could try to shield wall when he traps, that's when his burst comes
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#3 Zeriel

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 08:37 AM

Only thing I've found to be helpful at all is ask for godawful spam heals on yourself, and try and zerg his partner if they fuck up.

If he has a paladin, I have to say you're pretty much fucked. :|
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#4 Gankenoob

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 08:49 AM

Re-roll Ret and find yourself a good Shaman, you'll dominate any Hunter team :P
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 03:01 PM

kill pets, stack sunders on hunter, wait for 2 + execute proc crits and get nigh insta gib.
but yeah fuck hunters they have been absolutely absurd for a long time now and just keep getting better
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#6 Fierss

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 03:20 PM

wait for 2 + execute proc crits and get nigh insta gib.


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#7 Yakiteri

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:35 PM

Survival hunters destroy me no matter what spec I am.

The REAL QUESTION is why aimed shot is so fucking accessible by hunters. How about they make MS an 11 point talent too and let prot get an MS debuff?

They can also remove your buffs, sigh.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:05 AM

No idea, the class is out of control right now.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:35 AM

Survival hunters destroy me no matter what spec I am.

The REAL QUESTION is why aimed shot is so fucking accessible by hunters. How about they make MS an 11 point talent too and let prot get an MS debuff?

They can also remove your buffs, sigh.


Because port warriors were not made for pvp, and shouldnt be.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:38 AM

Because port warriors were not made for pvp, and shouldnt be.


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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:40 AM

Because port warriors were not made for pvp, and shouldnt be.


Based on what logic?

Fuck, you're dumb.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:04 AM

Because port warriors were not made for pvp, and shouldnt be.


Remind me who said that again.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:46 AM

The REAL QUESTION is why aimed shot is so fucking accessible by hunters. How about they make MS an 11 point talent too and let prot get an MS debuff?


For the same reasons all rogues can wound and deep fury had a healing debuff added?

It seems pretty obvious to me.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:04 AM

For the same reasons all rogues can wound and deep fury had a healing debuff added?

It seems pretty obvious to me.


Ah yes, it does to me too. Blizzard wanted to raise the representation of classes which were screwed the first time around, so they over buffed them. I get it. You're right, it was so obvious.
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#15 Levidian

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:09 AM

Ah yes, it does to me too. Blizzard wanted to raise the representation of classes which were screwed the first time around, so they over buffed them. I get it. You're right, it was so obvious.


It's obvious that a pure dps class should be able to use a part of the class mechanic regardless of builds?

All mage spec can poly all warlock specs can fear.

Are you seriously trying to make something out of all hunter specs being able to reach aimed shot?
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:22 AM

It's obvious that a pure dps class should be able to use a part of the class mechanic regardless of builds?

All mage spec can poly all warlock specs can fear.

Are you seriously trying to make something out of all hunter specs being able to reach aimed shot?


It wasn't a problem until aimed shot became mortal strike from across the field, without a rage cost. Now, you can compliment your overpowered explosive shots with a reduced healing effect. I'd like to see hunters as a viable force in the arena, rather than a ridiculous one. A quick way to do this is to separate their frankly ludicrous damage from their healing reduction effect. Don't mistake me as simply anti-hunter, either. I'd sooner see this happen to rogues first--they're the biggest abortion of the expansion behind death knights.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:37 AM

Based on what logic?

Fuck, you're dumb.


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#18 Levidian

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:48 AM

It wasn't a problem until aimed shot became mortal strike from across the field, without a rage cost. Now, you can compliment your overpowered explosive shots with a reduced healing effect. I'd like to see hunters as a viable force in the arena, rather than a ridiculous one. A quick way to do this is to separate their frankly ludicrous damage from their healing reduction effect. Don't mistake me as simply anti-hunter, either. I'd sooner see this happen to rogues first--they're the biggest abortion of the expansion behind death knights.


You think rogues would be viable w/o a healing debuff and so would hunters?

Interesting. I really don't have anything to say to this other than that its a wild opinion support by nothing really.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 03:14 AM

You think rogues would be viable w/o a healing debuff and so would hunters?

Interesting. I really don't have anything to say to this other than that its a wild opinion support by nothing really.


Okay, "devastating with support". I'm the one with wild, unfounded opinions. This entire class forum hates you because you say off the wall shit and now you have the audacity to tell someone they don't know what they're talking about. This is a game where rogues kill people during crowd control chains and win the mana war when they're not doing it--where hunters can lock and load a target into ground while another hostile is trapped and press mana when they're not doing it. Maybe you don't notice the woes of "common people" because you're too busy masturbating to the mirror, but things don't glitter for every class right now. Mortal strike or ridiculous damage, it's one or the other, not both.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 04:29 AM

You think rogues would be viable w/o a healing debuff and so would hunters?

Interesting. I really don't have anything to say to this other than that its a wild opinion support by nothing really.


I don't think rogues/hunters should have better healing debuffs than MS. The old wound/aimed shot (with perhaps a shorter cast) would've been fine. It'd be like giving pallies a 20% mana burn or warriors a 9s kidney shot.
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