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#1 Tyveris

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:27 AM

Hey guys. We need your help. We are going to be updating our talent guides for Wrath and were hoping you could post your planned build for level 80 along with a short description about it. Also, if you have any thoughts on the individual talents, listing those would be helpful as well. Each person will be credited and we will keep track of it with our new contribution system (no details yet).

Thanks in advance for everyone who helps out.
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#2 Cowazon

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:30 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...bdbeRhcuVo0Eczb

Basic Feral PvP spec for Shred damage.


Thick Hide vs Feral Instinct: Between Survival of the Fittest, Imp LOTP, int gems, and my bear form button, incoming melee damage isn't a big problem.

Primal Tenacity vs Predatory Instincts: With the buff to Rake, and the change to how easily Maim breaks, I find a lot more of my damage coming from bleeds, thus crit damage isn't as important. On top of that, it no longer gives you those sweet nova/howl resists, and doesn't even work at all in Bear Form.
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#3 Guest_Alphatier_*

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:04 AM

Moonkin spec 55/0/16:
http://www.wowhead.c...IoId0AzRuZcbfub

This is a balanced (dun dun) spec for very good damage output and high longetivity which can be used for playing with or without a healer.

Why certain talents were left out:
Brambles - Seems to be nice against rogues and ferals, but lacks against every other class. Treants can do nice damage but they will have nowhere near the highest damage output of your spells. Dazing a target doesn't really help when you are the most mobile class in the game, however, if it did help it would again be against rogues. If you have problems against rogues or do not need to have mana because you want things to die, switch points from intensity into brambles

Imp. Insect Swarm: Way too many points for such a lackluster talent, 3% damage on one attack isn't something spectacular, and 3% more crit on a spell you rarely cast doesn't do it either

Imp. Moonkin Form: Celestial Focus offers 3% (spell-)haste as well but makes sure Starfall becomes a Rain of Hurt, whereas 15% spelldamage from spirit is not much. Also, this only comes to play if you are in moonkin form.
The higher the bracket and the more casters you have with you, the better this talent becomes and you might want to put points into it. Generally not though.

Imp. Faerie Fire - 3% crit might be nice, so if you are a crit whore you might want to take this talent, you don't need the Spell Hit for PvP though so this talent becomes even worse than Imp. Insect Swarm

Eclipse - Eclipse can be a very strong talent -> If you are playing 5s with two healers, the only real occasion where you will have lots of time to cast damage spells. The buffs you get do really hurt, and you will have enough crit chance to make them happen (moonkin gear in WotLK has tons of crity on it), but you will usually not cast as much starfires in 3s or 2s, so it is only really viable for 5s



If you want to get some points, take them from Intensity and Master Shapeshifter, besides that you are good to go with this spec fitted to the most common arena situations.
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#4 Wicked

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:39 AM

Boomkin (58/0/13): This is how I would spec if I was playing tripple dps in 3's or any comp that will be fast games with heavy burst.

http://www.wowhead.c...IoIzhAkRuZbxczb

Leaving out Intensity and Moonglow because the games would be over before I could go oom anyway whether it's a win or loss. That or I would be able to drink. And innervates will be good with the extra spirit on gear at 80.

Leaving out Balance of Power because I believe hit will come for free on the gear I'd use.

EDIT: Leaving out Brambles because I would rely on teammates to peel melees off of me. So it's better spent on dps talents.

1 point in Eclipse for some extra RNG. It's not much of a pvp talent, at least not in smaller brackets. But I do believe it's worth 1 point for that RNG.
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#5 Mooneternal

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:27 PM

Resto Build http://www.wowhead.c...ohdZZcxIu0uxduq

31/0/40

This is what I will use and what will probably be everyone's choice.
You have a couple talents you can change with preference, like imp regrowth instead of imp HT. I like having strange specs, but you guys can see the point of it.

basicly, its DS with swiftmend and moonkin(to tank)
You gain alot of +heal from the spec and lose little from other talents farther in resto tree.
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#6 Drikor

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:33 PM

This is what I imagine would be the best Dreamstate spec for druids without the HT glyph.

http://talent.mmo-ch...ph=201506050401

And the best full resto spec without HT glyph.

http://talent.mmo-ch...ph=201506050401
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#7 Algrumm

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 06:04 AM

Mangle spam spec, best for with a healer in 2v2 imo for less positional requirements + faster combo points.
http://www.wowhead.c...ddbeRhIuho0Eczb
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#8 pointbreak

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 12:52 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...bdbeRhcuVo0Eczb

Basic Feral PvP spec for Shred damage.


Thick Hide vs Feral Instinct: Between Survival of the Fittest, Imp LOTP, int gems, and my bear form button, incoming melee damage isn't a big problem.

Primal Tenacity vs Predatory Instincts: With the buff to Rake, and the change to how easily Maim breaks, I find a lot more of my damage coming from bleeds, thus crit damage isn't as important. On top of that, it no longer gives you those sweet nova/howl resists, and doesn't even work at all in Bear Form.


This is pretty much the exact spec im going to be doing.. Been considering the mangle spec but with decent latency I think shred will still be better
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#9 Knivvis

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 04:36 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...dbeRZcxfu0uxVzh

knivvis awesome spec of healing
aka the new restokin spec except with feral
use boomkin gear, cuz crit helps
similar playstlye to resto druids of 70
will work best with a melee class or any class with a lot of survivability
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#10 Icematiklól

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 11:57 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...dbeRZcxfu0uxVzh

knivvis awesome spec of healing
aka the new restokin spec except with feral
use boomkin gear, cuz crit helps
similar playstlye to resto druids of 70
will work best with a melee class or any class with a lot of survivability


That spec is just simply useless. Given the amount hots heal for now and the amount of damage in the game, you cannot go Feral.
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#11 Militus

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 07:36 AM

That spec is just simply useless. Given the amount hots heal for now and the amount of damage in the game, you cannot go Feral.


Yea thought the same. If you're using resto gear, you'll do shitall damage, if you're using feral gear, you're doing shitall healing.
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#12 WACOO

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 08:18 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...dbeRZcxfu0uxVzh

knivvis awesome spec of healing
aka the new restokin spec except with feral
use boomkin gear, cuz crit helps
similar playstlye to resto druids of 70
will work best with a melee class or any class with a lot of survivability


you can't be serious
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#13 Mooneternal

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 03:51 PM

hope it was a joke.
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#14 Ganjlatree

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 03:14 AM

Oh jesus, I don't see how you can even come up with that talent spec. The reason "restokin" works is because you can effectively wear resto gear and still do damage.

You cannot wear boomkin gear and do melee dmg.

/facepalm
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#15 Zismofyx

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 10:12 AM

I think you've all failed to understand how the spec isnt supposed to do damage, but caused by the high amount of crit gear in the new balance gear setup regain insane amounts of mana for you (8% of max each time you crit) and with the high amount of surviveability due to Survival instinct 10% armor 6% less crits. Not to talk about the 20% more intellect.
The survival/mana aspect of the spec seems fine, but as it was pointed out i believe the problem with this spec would be the problem with hots in wotlk, its simply not enough to pop hots and go bearform(especially without Nature's Splendor) therefore you wont get to spend enough time in bearform before you have to go hot yourself again and the mana you gain from your crits will only be the mana you loose from the extra shapeshifting.
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#16 Mooneternal

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 06:28 PM

I understand your spec a little, but the loss of +healing is not worth it, having boomkin form is 1000X better to survive because you can CC while being in oomkin. Your spec is just too hybrid to work and mixes "powers" (AP and SP) meaning you cant really make it work.
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#17 Norox1887

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 06:24 AM

I think in S5 where nobody is on resilience cap this spec
http://www.wowhead.c...ohdZZf0IubuxmkA
is gonna be the best 31/0/40 spec.
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#18 Mooneternal

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 06:56 PM

Resto Build http://www.wowhead.c...ohdZZcxIu0uxduq

31/0/40

This is what I will use and what will probably be everyone's choice.
You have a couple talents you can change with preference, like imp regrowth instead of imp HT. I like having strange specs, but you guys can see the point of it.

basicly, its DS with swiftmend and moonkin(to tank)
You gain alot of +heal from the spec and lose little from other talents farther in resto tree.



NEW UP TO DATE SPEC : http://www.wowhead.c...ohdZZf0IubuxrkA

I changed a couple things that I screwed up in the resto tree.
For the ppl that think 2 talents in imp HT is not worth it... you need that bigger healing bomb to live through the dps. I always had that talent because I loved the ~1k more healing on NS, it was even gamebreaking sometimes.
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 08:15 PM

Best build that includes Wild Growth. Furor for bashes.

http://www.wowhead.c...ZZcxIubuxmuAhst

After running with this spec yesterday, Furor is actually huge. We can no longer Feral Charge (obviously) so I just had to use bash to lock out healers.. won 3-4 games for us (at least made it end at that point) out of the dozen or so we played.
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#20 nubmadri

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 05:45 PM

http://www.worldofwa...150000000000000

44/0/27 LOLWUT

..im bored, and all the sensible builds have already been posted.

edit: and it's SURELY better than any 31/0/40 variant!
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