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#21 Dynimight

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:10 PM

Have you even used gargoyle before? It's the strongest runic power dump a deathknight has. The thing hits like a truck. Why do you think blood specs are getting it over their 51 pointer.

That spec relies on obliterate, but it doesn't get subversion, rime, or guile of gorefiend. Your obliterate is gonna crit for jack shit, and it's missing 24% crit chance.

All of your special abilities are gonna hit for less because you have no ebon plague, and then then they're gonna hit for even less because of all the damage you're missing from early blood talents.

It's bad.

That spec also has 2/3 in outbreak........................ please try to justify that.
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#22 Steamboat

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:15 PM

This spec in blizzard DK forums i found

the person calls it "cheebo spec"

http://forums.worldo...661604021&sid=1

it seems like this will require high degree of micro/pet management, and constant monitoring of runes and runic power.


The only worse spec I've seen might be the frost spec someone posted in the "annoying stuff" thread. but by all means spec into this, I love free points. It's almost like this cheebo guy was thinking...how can I make the most ineffective build possible?
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#23 Majy

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:25 PM

Excuse me for not actually looking into every spec listed here - any theorycrafting being done on a mostly frost spec w/ enough in unholy for garg & permanent pet?

I was thinking along the lines of picking up a wide array of both offensive and defensive frost abilities so you can play the "tank 'em til they break" game and then be able to switch to burst when you're ready for it..

Just curious if there's no way it will work due to mediocrity or whatnot.
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#24 Steamboat

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:32 PM

Excuse me for not actually looking into every spec listed here - any theorycrafting being done on a mostly frost spec w/ enough in unholy for garg & permanent pet?

I was thinking along the lines of picking up a wide array of both offensive and defensive frost abilities so you can play the "tank 'em til they break" game and then be able to switch to burst when you're ready for it..

Just curious if there's no way it will work due to mediocrity or whatnot.


Looks like you are looking for the 21/0/50 build. I think that is the best mix of offense and defense



I'm thinking of trying this really offensive frost build out once people learn that focusing DK's is a bad idea
http://www.wowhead.c...xthxdRGoAostbhG
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#25 Dynimight

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:58 PM

Excuse me for not actually looking into every spec listed here - any theorycrafting being done on a mostly frost spec w/ enough in unholy for garg & permanent pet?

I was thinking along the lines of picking up a wide array of both offensive and defensive frost abilities so you can play the "tank 'em til they break" game and then be able to switch to burst when you're ready for it..

Just curious if there's no way it will work due to mediocrity or whatnot.


Honestly, I just couldn't justify a reason for going that deep into frost without picking up Hungering Cold. I suppose it could work for some comps, but I think you just lose too much for it. Frost also gains a lot of damage from the early blood talents, which you'd be skipping out on.
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#26 Majy

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:56 PM

Honestly, I just couldn't justify a reason for going that deep into frost without picking up Hungering Cold. I suppose it could work for some comps, but I think you just lose too much for it. Frost also gains a lot of damage from the early blood talents, which you'd be skipping out on.


Hungering Cold is one of those "this can win the game" abilities, but I also feel like it's not a total necessity (garg can be considered one of those spells as well). Anyway, I had done almost no looking at the blood tree so thanks for pointing that out.
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#27 Abeyance

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:38 PM

What's going to be the standard tanking spec at 80?
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#28 Steamboat

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:19 AM

Here's a list of pretty standard builds you will see

Unholy/blood (w/toughness)
http://www.wowhead.c...ZfMGh0fkReqofok

Unholy/blood (standard)
http://www.wowhead.c...fMGh0fkReqofokb

Deep frost/blood
http://www.wowhead.c...ZGxxthxdoGoVosu

Very deep frost/unholy
http://www.wowhead.c...xthxdRGoAostf0G
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#29 Getrugged

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 01:47 AM

wtf were you thinking, I think this just won the award for worst build ever.


LOL

dw, for our sake, lets assume he was trolling
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 04:29 AM

Undoubtedly going

http://www.wowhead.c...Zf0GI0fkMxqocou

at 80. Every single good death knight ability in one build, this is going to own so much for a cleave setup with windfury. (lol 40% haste + desecration + lichborne + toughness + unholy armor + antimagic shell + intimidation on a ghoul)
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#31 Steamboat

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 04:45 AM

Undoubtedly going

http://www.wowhead.c...Zf0GI0fkMxqocou

at 80. Every single good death knight ability in one build, this is going to own so much for a cleave setup with windfury. (lol 40% haste + desecration + lichborne + toughness + unholy armor + antimagic shell + intimidation on a ghoul)


too bad you cant fit reaping in :( I don't like using weak ass untalented blood strikes all the time


This is an interesting build I came up with awhile ago just remember bloodstrike glyph inreases blood strike damage by 20% (chillblains lawl) then you got another 30% from bloody strikes and 15% from blood of the north.
http://www.wowhead.c...sboZG0xthxzoGoA

you might have to use it in a cleave comp though

http://www.wowhead.c...oZG0xthxzkGoAos
same concept but going a little further down the frost tree
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#32 Malacothdai

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 10:39 PM

Unholy/Frost Build

0 / 16 / 55

http://www.wowhead.c...fMGh0fkRxqofsux
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:29 PM

Well what about this?
http://www.wowhead.c...IsbotzAZhg0xhZc
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#34 Steamboat

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 01:41 AM

Well what about this?
http://www.wowhead.c...IsbotzAZhg0xhZc


if your going that deep into blood get will of the necropolis.
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#35 ratcho

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 06:27 PM

Well what about this?
http://www.wowhead.c...IsbotzAZhg0xhZc


If this build was intended for PVP, it lacks some key talents.
Not picking up Bladed Armor or Lichborne is mindblowing to me.

I would also use Virulence for dispel resist as diseases are our bread and butter.

In sum, here's what i come up with for Blood PVP, PVE or levelling is different though.

http://www.wowhead.c...botuhZhg0zhZf0h
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#36 Carecup

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 11:02 PM

I'm going to go Blood/Unholy for PvP, something like
http://www.wowhead.c...IsfozzAoZfMGc0f


But then I was playing around with specs and came up with
http://www.wowhead.c...zzhZZfMGc0fkh0o

I think giving up DRW and Blood Gorged for Gargoyle and Ghoul pet would be a very good trade off. You would get the pet stun + damage from Gargoyle.

It seems like I'm one of the few planning on going Blood for arenas at 80 though. :(
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#37 Deccard

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 04:28 PM

I'm planning on going blood, too. I'm just torn up wether to go slightly into Frost, Unholy or a mixture. May depend on my comps which are not finished yet.
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#38 jones_

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 12:13 AM

removed since finding out shaman buffs dont stack with dks
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:26 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...ZfMGh0fkReqocou

unholy heal spec to run with a healer/rogue in 2's

also for 3's.

only trouble i had deciding upon was 2h specialization or unholy aura.


also will have an ice/unholy or ice/blood spec for when duelspecing comes out. just like steamboat, its for when people stop getting on dks. ( and for when i can resil cap myself)

note* my specs are still un in the air until s5 starts. ill decide then when im not basing it on my pve items.... while i can get a great idea as to an educated guess about arena pvp specs, its hard to really finalize.

ill through my legitimate ones up 1-2 weeks into s5.

also, any word of if savages gears coming out prior to s5? or do i have to sit on my already honor point capped dk for longer :(
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 12:24 AM

Undoubtedly going

http://www.wowhead.c...Zf0GI0fkMxqocou

at 80. Every single good death knight ability in one build, this is going to own so much for a cleave setup with windfury. (lol 40% haste + desecration + lichborne + toughness + unholy armor + antimagic shell + intimidation on a ghoul)


Icy talons does not stack with WF sadly, that spec would work better without a shaman in a cleave team.
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