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#1 Flarebrass

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 04:10 AM

Or are there just a billion bad Retties and like three good ones per battlegroup? I've totally slaughtered any team with a Ret thus far.

Could it simply be that Balance Druids are just more OP than Rets? Or do they simply fall apart after they use Repentance and I Trinket their HoJ?

Or does the lag favor casters? ><;;;

Or does full S2 have something to do with it?
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#2 Algrumm

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 04:13 AM

just got caught in HoJ in caster by a ret in kara gear(and the kara hunter axe) and died about 3s into HoJ.

Yes, ret is ridiculous. about 4x the damage of rogues, the same amount of stuns, immunities and heals.
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#3 Thricton

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 04:30 AM

Yes, they can kill you inside their bubble...totally fair.
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#4 Nooblett

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 05:18 AM

yeah i can't live a full hammer lol
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 05:22 AM

boomkins are quite good against ret pallys, i haven't had much of a problem with them except when they get to me, lol
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 05:23 AM

I like how they outlast me on my priest. Nothing like landing a bunch of mana burns and then seeing them be full on mana when I'm oom.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:23 AM

I like how they outlast me on my priest. Nothing like landing a bunch of mana burns and then seeing them be full on mana when I'm oom.


This. They are the only "melee" dps that cannot be outlasted or kited by healers.

Edit: I put quotes around melee because half their damage is unmitigated anyway.
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#8 Kqpro

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:49 AM

balance druids are just as retard-friendly in 3.0 as a Ret.
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#9 Algrumm

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:17 AM

balance druids are just as retard-friendly in 3.0 as a Ret.


nothing really changed with balance druids. the rng stun needs removed.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:22 AM

balance druids are just as retard-friendly in 3.0 as a Ret.


I'm gonna go with...no.
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#11 Vlada

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:35 AM

Moonkin's burst is low

not

3 classes that are broken now ret,moonkin,mage (burst wise)
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#12 Algrumm

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:45 AM

Moonkin's burst is low

not

3 classes that are broken now ret,moonkin,mage (burst wise)


Try moving near a pillar.
Moonkin has ALWAYS had this burst.
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#13 Vlada

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:46 AM

Try moving near a pillar.


never played serious arena since 3.0 , just saying from a duel perspective so just ignore what i said meh
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#14 Drye

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:49 AM

burst is atm broken cause we dont get any new spells on our way to 80 so no new dmg apart from gear.
so just shut up with the op yelling and wait till wotlk ffs, nothing matters atm. apart from perhaps pushing some people to weapons for faster leveling o.0
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#15 Algrumm

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:54 AM

burst is atm broken cause we dont get any new spells on our way to 80 so no new dmg apart from gear.
so just shut up with the op yelling and wait till wotlk ffs, nothing matters atm. apart from perhaps pushing some people to weapons for faster leveling o.0


ret is even more unbalanced at 80.
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#16 Baneman

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:55 AM

boomkin damage is pretty high, but lack survivabilty of mages and rets. starfall and trees are on 3 min. cd. i think removing starfall stun but making it undispellable would be a good change. starfire crits for 4-5k+ on decently geared players, not much different from a shatter combo pre 3.0 (and certainly not guaranteed to crit).

anyways, top priorities should be nerfing ret damage/heals and buffing all healers to make them viable again.
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#17 macc

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 09:55 AM

yes the healing output of a retri pala is still to hight. but let`s see if blizz will change it in one of the next patches.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 10:57 AM

burst is atm broken cause we dont get any new spells on our way to 80 so no new dmg apart from gear.
so just shut up with the op yelling and wait till wotlk ffs, nothing matters atm. apart from perhaps pushing some people to weapons for faster leveling o.0


Hi, I've been on beta since august and I'd just like to let you know that it's not any better at 80.

P.S. what sweet new spells do I get on my priest to save me against the big mean melee? Oh ok thx lol
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#19 Zumi

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 11:00 AM

Balance druids aren't even close to Ret palas. Only thing OP about balance druids is that you can throw people of cliffs in EOTS. That's all.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 11:07 AM

balance druids are fine
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