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#21 RippedLife

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 06:32 PM

I can 1000000000% guarantee that they will not provide the Vanilla WoW that you guys are thinking of. Also no arena so.. lol.


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#22 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

did Legion kill WoW.. seriously?

it killed pvp at least, lovely 78% drop in ladder participation from the end of WoD to the second half of Legion


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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


#23 Ozar

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 11:28 PM

I can 1000000000% guarantee that they will not provide the Vanilla WoW that you guys are thinking of. Also no arena so.. lol.

The Vanilla WoW I am thinking of is Vanilla WoW in its original authentic form not touched at all. I really hope the only bit of code they touch is to fix the game from crashing and that is all (I will allow optional graphics changes at most). If they decide to change anything about Vanilla I won't be playing it, I want the authentic Vanilla experience. I really hope they give that to us.


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#24 Odrareg

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 03:05 AM

kinda depends on what patch you're referring to as well. they made huge changes over time in vanilla itself.  do you want mailboxes in northshire abbey for example? do you want to be able to use elixirs in combat? there's a video on youtube that shows how the game was completely overhauled in mid 2005, which is still vanilla. due to this, it's gonna be impossible to make everyone happy. 

 

also not sure if "vanilla" is also gonna mean being able to holy shock and have the spell go on CD without doing any healing, just cause you're jumping behind a pillar at the same time...and that wouldn't really crash your game. are you okay with that bug being back, or would you want to fix it?

 

it's going to be a huge shitfest. some people "even" (i personally wouldn't mind) want the new WoD models to be available


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#25 Ozar

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 03:27 AM

kinda depends on what patch you're referring to as well. they made huge changes over time in vanilla itself.  do you want mailboxes in northshire abbey for example? do you want to be able to use elixirs in combat? there's a video on youtube that shows how the game was completely overhauled in mid 2005, which is still vanilla. due to this, it's gonna be impossible to make everyone happy. 

 

also not sure if "vanilla" is also gonna mean being able to holy shock and have the spell go on CD without doing any healing, just cause you're jumping behind a pillar at the same time...and that wouldn't really crash your game. are you okay with that bug being back, or would you want to fix it?

 

it's going to be a huge shitfest. some people "even" (i personally wouldn't mind) want the new WoD models to be available

Any patch in vanilla is fine with me. 

 

If that bug was in the vanilla patch that they choose to use then the bug shall stay there.

 

I wouldn't mind an option to choose "new" graphics you can choose to switch on and off.


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#26 Naraga

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 04:47 PM

I can 1000000000% guarantee that they will not provide the Vanilla WoW that you guys are thinking of. Also no arena so.. lol.

Why would they change it?

 

I would imagine they might fix some bugs, they might even make updated graphics an option for those that want it (new players).

 

But I doubt they will actually change it. What is the point then?


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Druid utility is superior to shamans utility already

all the other healers should be buffed up to the point of having a way of not having to outplay 2 dps to survive

Thunka 2.0

disc is way way better than druid.


#27 Ujinpark88

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 05:26 PM

They don't have the original coding of vanilla WoW anymore.  Even private servers don't have the proper percentages and etc, only thing they can do is just guess and check. 
For instance, Nostalrius did a good job with tweaking and trying to mimic the numbers and fix spells. 

I'm not sure if they rehired the pool of developers that worked on WoW years ago or keep in contact with them at the very least, but they have plenty of time to make the vanilla they think will give the joys of the past to the players of the present. 
-Will they fix the bugs that vanilla originally had? 
Quite possibly. 
-Will there be new bugs arising slipping through the cracks of their prying eyes?
Quite possibly.  

I just hope that this will replicate the numerous amount of social interactions and family-like environment I've experienced in those days whilst enjoying the oh so glorious world PVP and battlegrounds.


Edited by Ujinpark88, 07 January 2018 - 05:27 PM.

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#28 Blexone

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:02 AM

Im pretty sure a lot of people will be surprised how shit Vanilla actually was. I Think they should bring at least tbc
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#29 Gsgsgsgsgs

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:50 PM

can u get r1 in vanilla


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#30 Burtmage

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

honestly legion is so fucking bad seems like it was designed by someone missing several fingers. This game is dead, wow killed wow.


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#31 Braindance

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

honestly legion is so fucking bad seems like it was designed by someone missing several fingers. This game is dead, wow killed wow.

I had a lot of fun we should do this again


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Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

bro you got +rep'd by rapture... 

 

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#32 Burtmage

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:42 PM

I had a lot of fun we should do this again

 

 

ya cus u havent been playing since legion s1 xD  it gets stale incredibly fast because everything is pruned to fucking shit


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#33 Braindance

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:46 PM

ya cus u havent been playing since legion s1 xD  it gets stale incredibly fast because everything is pruned to fucking shit

Nothing's stale when u read AAAAAAACE


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Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

bro you got +rep'd by rapture... 

 

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#34 Siuox

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:50 PM

also dont think many people will grind to 60 for 3 month, no content besides farming useless shit all the time. 10h+ botfarming for pvp title. pve bosses are completly freeloot cause they only auto attack, thats why every private server buffs them. globals take 5 seconds. you only got 2 buttons. fighting to tag a mob. regging 30 seconds after 1 mob. do people who actually have played vanilla have the same free time they can invest? 

 

maybe streamer will build enough hype, gonna check it out for sure but sceptical about long term success, cause your character is trash without pveing (hf spaming 5h long dungeons to get nothing in 2018)


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#35 Ozar

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 08:43 AM

can u get r1 in vanilla

Don't remind me I couldn't get it on live either :'(


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#36 sarma

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 05:29 PM

Watch it on the bright side atleast celestalon was pruned and so was holinka


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 06:30 PM

also dont think many people will grind to 60 for 3 month, no content besides farming useless shit all the time. 10h+ botfarming for pvp title. pve bosses are completly freeloot cause they only auto attack, thats why every private server buffs them. globals take 5 seconds. you only got 2 buttons. fighting to tag a mob. regging 30 seconds after 1 mob. do people who actually have played vanilla have the same free time they can invest? 
 
maybe streamer will build enough hype, gonna check it out for sure but sceptical about long term success, cause your character is trash without pveing (hf spaming 5h long dungeons to get nothing in 2018)


You do know it’s possible to play a game and just have fun and not worry about getting all the epics/titles/mounts and everything else right? And let’s not say retail as is is any harder of a game if you min/max. Addons literally play the game for you when you are doing the most “difficult” parts and when you are waiting for resets/people to log in to do arena you are bored out of your mind running in circles in dal. At least with vanilla you have something to do everyday when you log in. Will you get any epics handed to you by doing dungeons? No. WIll the raids be mind numbingly hard? No. But at least it gives you incentive to log in and actually play the game to have fun and not take it so serious.

Taking WoW serious in 2018 lol
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#38 zzu

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 08:12 PM

wow is a community based game, titles only matter if other people care about them and pvp is only competitive for that reason 

 

there is such a diminishing return on titles now (the best reward u can get from pvp) and with so few playing anyone who wants /cares for getting one can, pushing the only competitive play into tournaments, which with the way wow pvp is structured is inherently flawed due to counters 

 

plus the gameplay is just less fun, class mechanics cherished for almost a decade were removed without a second thought, i wasn't around for the golden days of AJ but if u read the old threads the things that matter are teams, ladder, rivalries, genuine competitive struggle and spirit, now 300ish people share r1, like 1.5k share gladiator, there is no direct rivalrly, ur biggest enemy is reaching a specific number 

 

i don't play and haven't for a long time now, but i'd love to see a return of some class mechanics, a greater degree of choice in specialisation, un pruning, a return of teams and push towards re creating a community


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#39 fogoos

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 10:54 AM

No, u can play PvP


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