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#41 Hollowinside

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:46 PM

The vocal vanilla community is the SJW of WoW. Pretending to fight racism and intolerance while being worse.

This. More truth (about the game) has never been spoken in one sentence before.


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Because the random name generator might pump out Lortfanden, which sounds like a pretty generic fantasy Warrior name in English, until you realize it means "Shit Fuck" in Danish.

#42 Melaniatrump

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:47 PM

I think this whole Vanilla thing is gonna be a disaster. Not because of the game, the game was fine itself. Classes were dumb to play (Despite what Dizzeeyo vomits every day just to complain, classes were dumb and clunky) levelling was slow and easy and you need a tremendous amount of time to progress in the game. (There was a sentence in french, maybe you had it too back then was "Moins tu dors plus t'es fort." The less you sleep the stronger you are.
Don't get me wrong, i loved it. Every second of it, even if my social experience was awful. The game could be played solo enough to progress. And yes i stayed minutes to inspect people with t3 gear too.
I really think the community will destroy it. Between the retail one who likes Legion (Which i am, but i think it's because i don't compare my dick to other players to see if it's bigger, so i can enjoy what wow is, a game.), the one who hates it but still plays it, the one who wants honestly to try vanilla, and the real community, the despicable elitists who speak louder than everyone else. Look at all the forums, the streams, twitter. It's gonna be a cold shower for a lot of people.
Maybe i'm wrong. We'll see.
The vocal vanilla community is the SJW of WoW. Pretending to fight racism and intolerance while being worse.
Maybe it's only my personnal experience but i got way more friends after Cataclysm. Vanilla from Wotlk was extremely elitists and arrogants when the "pleb" managed to reach the same spot. And for PvE... well, it's probably less personnal and more "solo games with people around" but at least i can do it at my level (HM at max) without being rejected because i had the luck of prefering the shadow spec and not being dwarf.
The community is maybe more dumb but way more open on its way.
Tip for Vanilla : play an ud sp with your friend and you will be able to duo all the level 60 dongeon without having to wait 2h for a tank (Warrior.)



In terms of the community I had the exact oppisite experience. Vanilla through mid wrath I would say I made the most friends and none of the people I played with were elitists. We were always one raid tier behind in vanilla and bc and it seemed like most of the people I was around were super chill and were always ready to join a Kara run even in our BT gear to help others when we were bored. Or even when I was on an alt in a different guild and a newbie joined people always seemed ready to give advice and run them through stuff. And arenas in bc were super fuckin chill just friends going “hey wanna do some 2s?” And just having fun, no elitism at all.

Then when wrath came it seemed pretty fun and promising until after ToC I would say. This was the part of wow that murdered teir like raids. What I mean by that is, in bc if you were a new guild in welfare dungeon blues then you had to do Kara,gruuls,mag>ssc,za,tk>bt,hyjal. Unless you got carried by other people You HAD to do the other raids first. So after ToC (or during I can’t remember) when a new guild came about all they had to do was dungeons and then raid. That’s it. This turned everyone into a know it all for some reason and started the trend of “LF 2 DPS BLAH BLAH BLAH NEED 5k GS AND ACHEIV”. And then arena turned to shit as well. “Link highest acheiv” “Im 2400 on my pally man I’m just trying to learn this lock and play some games” “LOL SURE GTFO”
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#43 Naraga

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:33 PM

The only thing that I find unfortunate is that vanilla has already been figured out due to the huge amount of private servers. The real vanilla fans have played it so many times already, they know the best and fastest ways to level, gear up and they'll clear the raids within hours of their release (assuming they are locked at the start).

 

That's one part of the game I will miss. Other than that I'm sure it'll be great. Hopefully they'll at some point progress the server to TBC and so on.


Edited by Naraga, 15 November 2017 - 06:34 PM.

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S8 ele LSD glad S9 resto shamn glad Thunka

Druid utility is superior to shamans utility already

all the other healers should be buffed up to the point of having a way of not having to outplay 2 dps to survive

Thunka 2.0

disc is way way better than druid.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 04:33 PM

The only thing that I find unfortunate is that vanilla has already been figured out due to the huge amount of private servers. The real vanilla fans have played it so many times already, they know the best and fastest ways to level, gear up and they'll clear the raids within hours of their release (assuming they are locked at the start).
 
That's one part of the game I will miss. Other than that I'm sure it'll be great. Hopefully they'll at some point progress the server to TBC and so on.


You won’t miss it if you just treat vanilla like you did back in the day. Don’t download addons to level, take it at your own pace, don’t join a serious competitive guild, and just play the game without trying to min/max. That’s the mentality people need to get rid of. And just play the game
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#45 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:58 PM

Despite what Dizzeeyo vomits every day just to complain

thanks for reminding me that I post every day on this website about how awesome Vanilla wow was, I'll work on cutting back on that moving forwards :)


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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 07:25 PM

What is the default tickrate that the servers are currently running? I see that BF3 vanilla has default of around 10-15. So, are normal VU serves which dont require client to be restarted running the same 10hz or are they running at 30 as default?
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#47 zzu

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 02:44 AM

i have an unfounded ambition/hope that they play wow through again if you get me

 

like classic, then tbc, then wotlk etc

 

i think that would be v fun and good (besides obvious stuff like people knowing what is strong head of arena seasons, and what is broken)

 

i just want charge stun back and this will give it to me


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#48 justicecute

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 01:42 AM

If you want class balance changes you're a complete fucking idiot and should shut the fuck up immediately. The ONE thing that there should be a discussion about is if it should be patch 1.12 with a progressive system or just patch 1.1 without bgs and shit in the start and extremely dumb talents.

Well have fun sitting in 15 second poly and sap then. 


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i sold my account zeynaa isnt mine anymore


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 03:19 AM

Well have fun sitting in 15 second poly and sap then.


You say this as if it won’t be fun. P.s. it is
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:06 AM

Well have fun sitting in 15 second poly and sap then. 

 

First of all Vanilla isn't a balanced PvP game, but that was never the case with any expansion and considering there's no rated gameplay this makes it completly irrelevant. Secondly how is this even the main problem that you have with Vanilla? The most broken things are things such as orc-X but especially orc warlocks, orc WARRIORS with C'thun axe and shadow priests when it comes into late vanilla for PvP.
Now I've played Vanilla for about 81 days the past 8months and I have very little to complain about other than orcs and yeah partly maybe because I do play a rogue and I have pretty good gear atm, in fact almost full bis for PvP actually including Renataki (60 energy on use trinket). If I was dying to myself I would be complaining about the absurd amount of energy that a rogue can use (110 with 5set T1 and open right before your energy tick (+20) + 60 energy from Renataki + 100 energy from Thistle tea) and the amount of damage and CC I've got whilst im killing you. The only CC from a rogue worth complaining about is STUNS and 5,5s gouges cus that's actually relevant CC and ends up looking like this; 4s Cheap>5,5s Gouge>6s Kidney>10s Blind if needed and then Sap or Cheap again considering the DR's are 15 seconds for most spells too.
Also in Vanilla there is always something that counters something else and that's the beauty of it and I see no problem with it. Sapper Charges, skull, rocket helmet, reflectors etc all these things make the game really interesting and opens up windows for outplaying people. And the 15 second sheeps, come on man how is that even a problem it makes no difference considering you're not actively playing 2v2 or 3v3 in the world and stopping cc makes it even more rewarding. 
The only thing worth complaining about is warlocks, SPs, orcs, (rogues, and mages not because of the sap/sheeps but the retarded damage and cc overall that the classes have especially when combined with some utility items), and I am pretty sure that's by far the most retarded shit in Vanilla especially when each of these classes get more gear.
Now last when it comes to PvP in general; what about wiping other guilds that spent an hour and sometimes up to a few hours to get world buffs? Big fights in places such as Un'goro Crater which you will guranteed see now considering everyone knows about the Devilsaur Mafia. What about going around in the world and randomly finding people and killing them? Trust me this feels so fucking good and a lot of people can do this all day. 
 

Btw season 15 in MoP was probably one of the best seasons to ever exist in WoW and it had retarded amounts of CC, just look at what a druid and priest could do together with a fear, both had cyclone (from symbiosis btw) including the feral having INSTANT cyclone, bash, mind control, chastise stun, roots this was literally PERMANENT CC and same goes with many other comps that existed and that was actually relevant pvp being fucking stupid. The thing that made it so great tho was that it wasn't just one thing that was dumb, it was literally everything and every class had a sick comp they could play. People like you got the CC nerfed and that's why nowadays we see fear and blind and shit on the same DR, and it ended up being legion and WoD where you have no abilities and everything shares the same DR. Remember a mage+druid being able to cast poly and hibernate at the same time in order to gurantee that they get CC on a druid?? I am pretty sure a lot of people miss those things. Let me break it down to you by saying that stopping CC feels extremely rewarding and rewards good players.

Complain all you want and yes Vanilla did have its flaws but the game was actually fun to play, just like season 15 in MoP. You're literally just complaining about something that no one cares about when it comes to Vanilla. At least complain about something that's actually relevant.


Edited by Djtrax, 29 November 2017 - 08:53 AM.

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#51 Jim_Jim

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 10:46 AM

Well have fun sitting in 15 second poly and sap then.


Sheep duration was higher in Vanilla. The cc time limitation on players was introduced in tbc.
And trinket were 5min cd and class specific.

Shaman couldn't trinket sheep. 50s sheep was fun in S1 :D
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:04 AM

Btw season 15 in MoP was probably one of the best seasons to ever exist in WoW and it had retarded amounts of CC, just look at what a druid and priest could do together with a fear, both had cyclone (from symbiosis btw) including the feral having INSTANT cyclone

Just fyi, Ferals stopped having instant clone since S14 (Grievous). So yeah, they didn't have instant clone at all in S15.

Also, chill. He's just a guy on a forum who calmly stated his opinion about a 13 year old game having flaws. He didn't offend your mother/wife/sister or some shit. xD


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Because the random name generator might pump out Lortfanden, which sounds like a pretty generic fantasy Warrior name in English, until you realize it means "Shit Fuck" in Danish.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:38 AM

Just fyi, Ferals stopped having instant clone since S14 (Grievous). So yeah, they didn't have instant clone at all in S15.

Also, chill. He's just a guy on a forum who calmly stated his opinion about a 13 year old game having flaws. He didn't offend your mother/wife/sister or some shit. xD

 

Yea I forgot that a lot of changes happened mid MoP but still doesn't change the CC outcome.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:12 PM

Sheep duration was higher in Vanilla. The cc time limitation on players was introduced in tbc.
And trinket were 5min cd and class specific.

Shaman couldn't trinket sheep. 50s sheep was fun in S1 :D

Shamans were weak.

 

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Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

bro you got +rep'd by rapture... 

 

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 04:33 AM

4) okay first off do you mean "your problem"? not "our problem"?  And second off I didn't use 'your' wrong once and I never even said you're.  So you fell pretty flat on YOUR face again there bud.

I was thinking about replying to your pseudo-philosophical thoughts on semantics of the word need. However, after seeing you go back and actually correct your grammar in that old post, I realised I was getting trolled.

 

bye


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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:40 PM

I was thinking about replying to your pseudo-philosophical thoughts on semantics of the word need. However, after seeing you go back and actually correct your grammar in that old post, I realised I was getting trolled.
 
bye


Lol took you a month to write that and then say “bye” as if you just told me off... I think you’re trolling yourself son
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