i'm not arguing that pve gear was not helpful, but teams were getting glad in tbc and wotlk and cata with zero pve gear, therefore pve gear was not "required" or "necessary" to succeed
Of course people succeeded without PvE gear, but in my opinion, that doesn't made this as a counter argument. First of all, the mentality was waaaaaaay different back then. People were not as... fotm as now, first because it wasn't that "instant" to level up and geared a character, and most of the time, the classes which didn't need Pve gear was the already broken spec (Rogue in S11 is the best example.).
Put actual people in Cata, everyone of us will try to have PvE gear, everyone. And everyone will play the best class, as opposed to before where people sticked to their main most of the time.
I think being able to PvE to maximise a character is a good thing actually. As long as it comes with some disavantages with it. Like trading a bit a resilience (Wotlk), to have more stats, so you can make a mix of both of the stuff (Saying "Ok, i'll heal more, but i will be more vulnerable"). Of course there will be some OP things, like someone said before, some mages were full PvE gear, but mostly because the spec was already squishy (The last time they had some real counters) so why the fuck wearing resilience?
As long as this is not "There is no counterpart of wearing PvE stuff" like the end of S8 (With Shadowmourne and most trinkets), or S11 (With Gurthalak and other wonderful things. - Never said it was unfun, just... unfair. -).
Isn't warrior the "Only viable with Gurthalak" class in season 11?
Edited by Jim_Jim, 18 July 2017 - 04:00 PM.