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#1 Angrypiexx

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:30 PM

So let's recap this spell:

1) undispellable CC (except md which costs lots of mana and requires long casting time
2) shares dr only with fear 

3) prevents healing

4) doens't accidentally break

5) spammable

 

basically the best ability in game (pvp wise). HANDS DOWN

 

 

maybe time for a nerf ? It's the one thing that makes Druid the best healer by far since what ? 10-12 seasons ? The versatility of this ability makes druid the best choice for a comp in 2s and makes the class replace others on many comps (see for example RMD)

 

opinions?


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#2 Abidalzim

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:34 PM

Put it on sheep dr!


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:38 PM

Nope. Only suggestion is to not let it benefit from moonkin talent, so druids need to stand in the heat of fire always to get a clone. I like healers with cc, but it always needs to be a risk while going for it. I hate the monk cc chain with the range para into stun and he is in china before u know it.
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#4 Angrypiexx

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:07 AM

maybe reduce the range to 10y ?


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#5 Conditions

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:11 AM

It's not even the fundamental mechanics of how the spell works; it's the range. It's fucking retarded that it's a virtually nonpunishable CC. Monks are retarded too but at least they have to push in to play aggressive.


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#6 Angrypiexx

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:15 AM

also combine that with 
1) vortex 

2) roots

3) bash 

 

erm... more ccs ?


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:25 AM

ye, keep pruning this shit game................. retards

 

let's just make every class the same, gonna be so much fun!!

 

If you feel resto needs to be nerfed, nerf something other than clone; one of few unique and interesting (decision-wise) spells left in the game.


Edited by grisenx, 29 December 2016 - 12:30 AM.

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#8 Angrypiexx

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:27 AM

ye, keep pruning this shit game................. retards

nobody says REMOVE cyclone, we are more suggesting NERF it. i am sure your comment is 100% bias free


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 03:25 AM

dunno why u would cry about clone when u could actually cry about ele shams, outlaw rogue, destro locks


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 04:56 AM

dunno why u would cry about clone when u could actually cry about ele shams, outlaw rogue, destro locks

cause symbiosis got removed :(


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 07:52 AM

im not saying clone hasn't been worthy of a look at for a long, long time;

but in today's game of ALLLLLLLLLLL the bullshit to bitch about you pick 

cyclone.

good god man 


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#12 illizit

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 11:01 AM

im not saying clone hasn't been worthy of a look at for a long, long time;

but in today's game of ALLLLLLLLLLL the bullshit to bitch about you pick 

cyclone.

good god man 

 

This.

All day long


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#13 Nadagast

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 11:15 AM

Stop asking for uniquely strong things to be nerfed...  it's how we got here.  :[


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:33 PM

Stop playing this bad game and play something designed to be competitive. You are all playing a mini-game within a PvE-focused mmo - do you honestly expect it to be good and balanced? It never will be - some xpacs/patches may be better than others, but overall it will always be a joke compared to a game actually designed for competition.


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 01:33 PM

im not saying clone hasn't been worthy of a look at for a long, long time;

but in today's game of ALLLLLLLLLLL the bullshit to bitch about you pick 

cyclone.

good god man 

 

This


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 01:47 PM

Stop asking for uniquely strong things to be nerfed...  it's how we got here.  :[

No, I shall not rest until resto druid has just a tree form and rejuvenation, disc priest only has power word shield and penance, rogues only have stuns and autoattacks and Warlocks can only fear and drain life.


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 06:21 PM

ppl talkin out of their asses

druid bias for cyclone 

 

so basically AJ. thanks for the constructive talk gentlemen ! 


yeah, there are more broken things, i can name 10 out of my mind. then again: what annoys me and other healers is that we see our spot taken by a druid just cause... well cyclone. whoever does not acknowledge this is either retarded ... or a druid


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 07:28 PM

 

 

maybe time for a nerf ?

It has already been nerfed. With Legion they removed the spell completely from feral, and they nerfed the range from 25 to 20 yards unless you pick balance affinity, which can be punishing vs a lot of comps. 5 yards may not seem like a lot, but it actually makes a huge difference.

 

It's the one thing that makes Druid the best healer by far since what ? 10-12 seasons ? The versatility of this ability makes druid the best choice for a comp in 2s and makes the class replace others on many comps (see for example RMD)

 

opinions?

 

Saying that Cyclone is the sole reason druids are picked over other healers in a lot of comps isn't true (at least as of now and WoD). In fact, a lot of the highest rated druids don't even rely on Cycloning that much. The reason you pick druids over other healers in a lot of comps (especially dampening comps) is that they have really good survival, mana and healing output. A druid paired with a hybrid allows them to just camp bear with full hots in a lot of scenarios. 

 

Anyway, Cyclone doesn't need a nerf just because it's a unique spell like Nadagast said. If you're gonna start crying about Cyclone, you might as well start crying about spells like Mind Control too.


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#19 Angrypiexx

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 08:43 PM

It has already been nerfed. With Legion they removed the spell completely from feral, and they nerfed the range from 25 to 20 yards unless you pick balance affinity, which can be punishing vs a lot of comps. 5 yards may not seem like a lot, but it actually makes a huge difference.

 

Saying that Cyclone is the sole reason druids are picked over other healers in a lot of comps isn't true (at least as of now and WoD). In fact, a lot of the highest rated druids don't even rely on Cycloning that much. The reason you pick druids over other healers in a lot of comps (especially dampening comps) is that they have really good survival, mana and healing output. A druid paired with a hybrid allows them to just camp bear with full hots in a lot of scenarios. 

 

Anyway, Cyclone doesn't need a nerf just because it's a unique spell like Nadagast said. If you're gonna start crying about Cyclone, you might as well start crying about spells like Mind Control too.

go ahead and delete mind control for all i care :P lol are you even comparing the two things ? it's like comparing power word: barrier with hands of protection lol

 

on your post I do agree with most of what you say. It's not cyclone in itself, it's the whole package that comes from it: clone, bash, vortex, displacer beast and while we are at it yes, bear lolform (which is pretty strong when paired with stuff like overgrowth)


Edited by Angrypiexx, 29 December 2016 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 08:51 PM

No, I shall not rest until resto druid has just a tree form and rejuvenation, disc priest only has power word shield and penance, rogues only have stuns and autoattacks and Warlocks can only fear and drain life.

Well that would make the classes pretty unique though.


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