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#1 Beatme

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 08:28 AM

With new changes to holy, will it be viable?

Desesperate Prayer Baseline
Greater Fade: +100 movespeed and causing all melee. range and spells to miss u for 6 sec.
Ray of Hope 45sec CD.

 

Discipline gained an improvement in masochism and a new "Saving grace" with Shadow covenant (i doubt it's better than grace).

Forget this: Honor talent dome of light grants 45%+ dmg reduction instead 25%+ for barrier.

Opinions?

 

http://www.wowhead.c...ges-class-chang


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#2 Conditions

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 08:43 AM

Holy was last more viable than disc because the offensive pressure was better as well as the healing. Isn't really the case this time around plus being locked out of holy is a shutdown - it doesn't have an answer to being cleaved down and trained by melees all game. Greater Fade is super nice though but should have never been a Holy talent. Shadow if anything. No-one will ever take Shadow convenant the same way we wouldn't take premonition if we still had SWD, dunno why they insist on improving it when it's clearly poorly designed.

 

Also dome of light change is basically a better, aoe pain suppression, can't exactly ignore it considering the other two are shit without raptured up since PWS has a CD and breaks when you sneeze.

 

To answer in short though viable yes, better than disc no.


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 09:07 AM

I really expected a little more love for the priest discipline :(


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 10:19 AM

I really expected a little more love for the priest discipline :(

I just want chastise to be baseline so maybe we could get some fears off against all the other outrageous mobility healers. Or maybe silence back. Some sort of utility spell. Also, they REALLY need to lower the cd on pain suppression. 4m is a fucking fat ass joke.


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 11:33 AM

I just want chastise to be baseline so maybe we could get some fears off against all the other outrageous mobility healers. Or maybe silence back. Some sort of utility spell. Also, they REALLY need to lower the cd on pain suppression. 4m is a fucking fat ass joke.

Chastise for disc? rly? isnt mind control and fear enough?

id like to get some mobility, spectral guise or 60% feather back.


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#6 KIA Skill

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 12:02 PM

Chastise for disc? rly? isnt mind control and fear enough?

id like to get some mobility, spectral guise or 60% feather back.

Mind control isn't good and it breaks your character half of the time. Even when it doesn't, you're also just cc'ing yourself, it is very situational. Why would you think thats enough? Every other healer has more utility with better or similar healing output and cooldowns.


Shaman: Hex+incaptotem/root+earthbind
Paladin: Hoj+aoe blind/repent
Monk: Incap+leg sweep/ring of peace
Druid: Clone, Bash, vortex...

Disc needs another CC that doesn't share dr with fear and helps actually land fears, considering every other class is much more mobile.


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 12:24 PM

Mind control isn't good and it breaks your character half of the time. Even when it doesn't, you're also just cc'ing yourself, it is very situational. Why would you think thats enough? Every other healer has more utility with better or similar healing output and cooldowns.


Shaman: Hex+incaptotem/root+earthbind
Paladin: Hoj+aoe blind/repent
Monk: Incap+leg sweep/ring of peace
Druid: Clone, Bash, vortex...

Disc needs another CC that doesn't share dr with fear and helps actually land fears, considering every other class is much more mobile.

Well, disc can death hex, disc can predict hoj also death repetance or what ever it is, disc can death incap, disc can MD clone

You cant just look spellbooks and compare which is best.

 

Disc will be always best offensive healer in the game id say, as long we have purge, md, good cc(fear + mc) and decent dmg.

 

And imagine Mage rogue disc when disc has mind control + stun + fear.. Feels stupid to even talk about this:p

 

And also if youre worried about other classes stuns, go human:)


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 12:56 PM

Priest dont need more cc, i only waited for undispelable rapture or more movility.


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:16 PM

Mind control isn't good and it breaks your character half of the time. Even when it doesn't, you're also just cc'ing yourself, it is very situational. Why would you think thats enough? Every other healer has more utility with better or similar healing output and cooldowns.


Shaman: Hex+incaptotem/root+earthbind
Paladin: Hoj+aoe blind/repent
Monk: Incap+leg sweep/ring of peace
Druid: Clone, Bash, vortex...

Disc needs another CC that doesn't share dr with fear and helps actually land fears, considering every other class is much more mobile.


I dno seems to me like ur just really bad at disc :D


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#10 Beatme

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:01 PM

Miracle Worker (PVP): Serenity has now 2 Charges. (Holy)

Trinity (PVP): The duration of your atonement is increased 30 sec and the healing trasferred through atonement is increased 20 however, atonement can now only affect a maximum of 3 targets and can only be applied through Plea. (Disc)


http://www.mmo-champ...82#post43306382


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 06:30 PM

disc will still be awful dogshit

reroll holy pala godmode


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 06:45 AM

disc will still be awful dogshit

reroll holy pala godmode

Just got mine to 110. Honor talents are the bane of the game atm tbh. Grind up to 110, then grind twice as much to have all my buttons xD.


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