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#1 earanir

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:38 PM

So- iron bark now can go up to 56% dmg reduction with a 45 sec cooldown.

I play rdruid and im really happy they got such an increase to iron bark wich makes them alot more stronger
But its WAY to much.

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#2 earanir

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:40 PM

What do you guys think?
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 05:33 PM

usual blizzard overbuffs / overnerfs. Druid have not been on top of the foodchain for 2months after 10 years... well, needed to make them op as usual right ? I wonder what they think when they watch tournaments and see always the same Paladins and druids healers. ZzZzzz 


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 06:26 PM

I think it's fine tbh. You usually swap target if bark connects anyway. With the current burst dmg of classes the swaps are legit, so imo it's not gamebreaking
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 06:40 PM

I think it's fine tbh. You usually swap target if bark connects anyway. With the current burst dmg of classes the swaps are legit, so imo it's not gamebreaking

45 cds iron bark

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 06:53 PM

I think it's fine tbh. You usually swap target if bark connects anyway. With the current burst dmg of classes the swaps are legit, so imo it's not gamebreaking

this. i thought it was OP to but good teams just switch anyway, and the bad ones ( mostly frost dks) just train through it and get nothing done,  i think the 45 sec cd is needed, maybe a lil nerf to damage reduction wouldnt hurt, only thing i dont like is iv seen alot of bad rdruids have bad positioning and not hotted and we swap to them and they just bark, it kinda rewards bad play but its not the end of the world i guess


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#7 jumpypuppet

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 07:32 PM

i'm happy to have it, and I definitely acknowledge that it's powerful, but I have to admit that I'm having a lot of trouble keeping people up, even through bark. like, in a lot of cases it feels more unmanageable than it did even before 7.1, even though I really expected the patch to make it somewhat easier to heal through the damage. i'm not good -- I'll freely admit it. I also play a really suboptimal comp. but is there anyone else still having trouble with the amount of damage coming in? it often feels like I have to both sit bear and also shift out to heal, simultaneously
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#8 earanir

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 07:49 PM

this. i thought it was OP to but good teams just switch anyway, and the bad ones ( mostly frost dks) just train through it and get nothing done,  i think the 45 sec cd is needed, maybe a lil nerf to damage reduction wouldnt hurt, only thing i dont like is iv seen alot of bad rdruids have bad positioning and not hotted and we swap to them and they just bark, it kinda rewards bad play but its not the end of the world i guess


Thats been my experience as well. At some points i was playing bad and did not pre-hot or anything and simply aplying IB saved me completely
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#9 earanir

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 07:52 PM

45 cds iron bark
4 mins (3.5 spending 3 traits on artifact) on Ps.
 
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I play disc as well and this was also the first thing that i was thinking about.
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 09:42 PM

i play disc to and thinks its absurd, ps deff sdhouldnt be 45 seconds but like atleast 2 minutes or something, or two charges of 5min.


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 09:44 PM

i'm happy to have it, and I definitely acknowledge that it's powerful, but I have to admit that I'm having a lot of trouble keeping people up, even through bark. like, in a lot of cases it feels more unmanageable than it did even before 7.1, even though I really expected the patch to make it somewhat easier to heal through the damage. i'm not good -- I'll freely admit it. I also play a really suboptimal comp. but is there anyone else still having trouble with the amount of damage coming in? it often feels like I have to both sit bear and also shift out to heal, simultaneously

 do you go overgrowth?  they line up great, theres lots of mortal strikes in the game now also so you could be experiencing that, plus at lower rating ur team mates probably dont know how to kite to well or use defensive properly, plus druid artifact traits are huge 


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 12:44 PM

I really dont understand disc players they have %30 damage reduction all the time 2 different schools to cast heal shadow mend heals more than a shamans healing surge they have aoe instant cast cc they do the most damage in healers still complaining about fucking pain supression which is castable in stuns etc.Discs are fine watch Hydra,Efflux and others learn shit instead of complaining.


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 01:23 PM

I really dont understand disc players they have %30 damage reduction all the time 2 different schools to cast heal shadow mend heals more than a shamans healing surge they have aoe instant cast cc they do the most damage in healers still complaining about fucking pain supression which is castable in stuns etc.Discs are fine watch Hydra,Efflux and others learn shit instead of complaining.

Resto shaman point of view


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 01:25 PM

Resto shaman point of view

We can check from this point of view together

https://worldofwarcr...eaderboards/3v3


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 01:48 PM

We can check from this point of view together

https://worldofwarcr...eaderboards/3v3

12 hpala

7 resto druid

6 disc

5 mistweaver

1 resto shaman

 

in top 100..  so should rsham be buffed?


Edited by waniqutie, 31 October 2016 - 01:55 PM.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 02:10 PM

No.But people should stop crying and start learning.Also if a class needs  buff its not discs for sure


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 02:46 PM

I really dont understand disc players they have %30 damage reduction all the time 2 different schools to cast heal shadow mend heals more than a shamans healing surge they have aoe instant cast cc they do the most damage in healers still complaining about fucking pain supression which is castable in stuns etc.Discs are fine watch Hydra,Efflux and others learn shit instead of complaining.

 

hydra complaints 24/7 about disc. Also, priest is carried by mage rogue hard, outside of rmp any other healer is better. Remind me: how many discs did you see in preblizzcon ? kay


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 02:57 PM

I really dont understand disc players they have %30 damage reduction all the time 2 different schools to cast heal shadow mend heals more than a shamans healing surge they have aoe instant cast cc they do the most damage in healers still complaining about fucking pain supression which is castable in stuns etc.Discs are fine watch Hydra,Efflux and others learn shit instead of complaining.


Because each and every player who mains that spec is a complete moron.
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Posted 31 October 2016 - 03:04 PM

12 hpala

7 resto druid

6 disc

5 mistweaver

1 resto shaman

 

in top 100..  so should rsham be buffed?

 

 

Because each and every player who mains that spec is a complete moron.

I didnt want to be that rude but seems like ...


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 03:12 PM

in top 100..  so should rsham be buffed?

 

Rsham are perfectly fine as they are.

A good and smart nerf to frost dk and WW (Not a DH type of nerf of course, something like, nerfing Serenity for WW) could help them to slowly be "better" in this meta.

 

Hydra complained, complains and will complain all the time.

If he gets OS because of a maybe-right OP comp, that's because the game is bad.

If they OS a guy, it's because they are good.

 

Boring.


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