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#1 Freshlemons7474

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 04:17 AM

These new changes look crazy for destruction. 100 yard chaos bolt with 200% increased damage, is that real?

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  • Chaos Bolt now has a 100 yd range, up from 40.
  • Shadow Bolt now has a 100 yd range, up from 40.
  • Thal'kiel's Consumption Thal'kiel drains 8% of the life from your demon servants and unleashes a blast of Shadow damage at your current target equal to the life he stole. 40 yd range. Instant. 100 yd range. Instant.

Talents

  • Contagion Unstable Affliction also increases all damage you deal to the target by 15% You deal 12% increased damage to targets affected by your Unstable Affliction. Affliction Warlock - Level 30 Talent.

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  • Cremation Immolate is now instant cast, and Conflagrate deals an additional 8% of the target's total health in Fire damage, but now consumes Immolate. Destruction Warlock - Tier 4 PvP Talent.
  • Entrenched in Flame (New) Conflagrate roots targets for until cancelled. This effect does not break from damage. Destruction Warlock - Tier 5 PvP Talent.
  • Fel Fissure Chaos Bolt creates an eruption of Felfire under the target, dealing Shadow damage every 1 sec and reducing all healing recieved by 50% for 10 sec sec to all enemies within 5 yards of the initial target. Destruction Warlock - Tier 4 PvP Talent. 5 PvP Talent.
  • Firestone Restores 2 Soul Shards and increases your spell critical strike chance by 100% for 7 sec. Destruction Warlock - Tier 5 4 PvP Talent. Instant. 45 sec 

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#2 xogen

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 06:12 AM

I have no clue whats happening when I meet destros, I should prolly study, but. What the fuck goes on when they open 5 portals? :D You take 30% hp dmg per sec or something like that, pretty insane burst and they don't even cast.


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 08:08 AM

Wooooooooooooooot! I'm so happy right now. :D

 

Have to read it again!


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 08:17 AM

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

 

INSTANT IMMOLATE! YES! -> great buff for soul harvest too.

 

INSTANT ROOT! Does not break from dmg. :D I had NO slow as Destro before. This one is EPIC!

 

Chaosbolt buff, huuuuuuuuge!

 

 

Only one problem left... two talents in Tier 4 are so strong now that I really dont know what to choose! :) 

(Firestone Restores 2 Soul Shards and increases your spell critical strike chance by 100% for 7 sec

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Cremation Immolate is now instant cast, and Conflagrate deals an additional 8% of the target's total health in Fire damage)


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 08:05 PM

Does the 50% healing debuff from Fel Fissure apply the the actual target you cast Chaos Bolt on or does it only effect the targets around them?  From the wording it makes it sounds like it only works on targets around them.


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 11:17 PM

Does the 50% healing debuff from Fel Fissure apply the the actual target you cast Chaos Bolt on or does it only effect the targets around them?  From the wording it makes it sounds like it only works on targets around them.

It leaves a small patch of fire on the ground. Every opponent moves out of it without even realizing it, so it's a useless talent in most cases. I'd imagine conflag root will be the go-to talent, although I don't know if it drs with other roots.

 

The new Cremation looks great, but we'd lose Firestone over it, so I'm not sure how much of a buff it is, if at all. I'm doing prestige 1 atm and my chaos bolt hits like a wet noodle without it.


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 11:24 PM

Oh... I didn't see they're scaling up chaos bolt damage... now this could get interesting if it goes live.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 02:21 AM

Almost makes me wanna resub.

 

Almost.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 07:32 PM

Unless something drastically changes, affliction is looking to be trash tier now for 7.1 so I did my Destro artifact quest the other night and I'm going to start grinding AP for it.

 

Only problem is that initially it looks like you would develop your artifact in two completely differen't directions depending on if you want to play a shadowburn spam spec with Cremation or if you wanted to do a Chaos Bolt spec with Focused Chaos.

 

I can't imagine that Chaos Bolt is going to go live the way it is on the PTR now so maybe Cremation will end up being the better way to go?  I heard that the talent is bugged on the ptr right now though and it's not currently doing the extra 8% of someones health.  Sounds really strong if that 8% health can crit and works with the artifact gold trait conflagration of chaos.


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#10 Moriat

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 12:22 AM

a couple ptr videos showcasing the new chaosbolt / immolate talents. 

 


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 01:01 PM

I really hope that people will go for the Chaos Bolt spec, the Shadowburn spec looks so dumb with just jumping around spamming nothing but instant cast spells all game.


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Posted 10 October 2016 - 09:18 PM

I really hope that people will go for the Chaos Bolt spec, the Shadowburn spec looks so dumb with just jumping around spamming nothing but instant cast spells all game.

I've been playing both on the ptr.  The Chaos Bolt spec is much more fun to play for me anyways. After watching Jah play that Greater Pyro spec in the tourney yesterday it looks like running some like Destro + Fire mage could be really fun and gimmicky to play to try to one shot someone with Greater Pyro + Chaos Bolt.


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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:06 AM

I really hope these changes go live lol. I'm leveling my lock again just to play destro...always been my favorite spec since wotlk
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Posted 12 October 2016 - 01:44 PM

PvP Talents

  • Call Fel Lord Summon a fel lord to guard the location for 30 sec. Any enemy that comes within 6 yards will suffer high damage and be stunned for 1 sec. Demonology Warlock - Tier 5 PvP Talent. 2 Soul Shard. 40 yd range. Instant. 1.5 min cooldown. NEW: 30 sec is new
  • Casting Circle Summons a Casting Circle for 10 sec. While within the casting circle, you are immune to silences and interrupts the duration of silence and interrupt effects are reduced by 70%. Limit 1. Warlock Any2 Role - Tier 3 PvP Talent. 5% of Base Mana. 0.5 sec cast. 30 sec cooldown. NEW: nerf from immune to 70%
  • Entrenched in Flame Conflagrate roots targets for until cancelled 4 sec. This effect does not break from damage. Destruction Warlock - Tier 5 PvP Talent. NEW: nerf from "until cancelled" to 4 sec. Would have been op. :D
  • Focused Chaos Increases the damage of your Chaos Bolt by 200%, but it no longer is also cast on your targets afflicted by your Chaos Bolt damage is increased by 200%, but no longer strikes additional targets afflicted by Havoc. Destruction Warlock - Tier 4 PvP Talent. NEW: only tooltip, nothing changed

 

Affliction

  • Drain Life Drains life from the target, causing [*6 + 38.5% of Spell Power*] Shadow damage over 6 sec, and healing you for 600% of the damage done. Warlock - Affliction, Demonology, Destruction Spec. 0% of Base Mana, plus 3% per sec. 40 yd range. 6 sec cast (Channeled). NEW: extra afflock drain

 

Demonology & Destruction

  • Drain Life (New) Drains life from the target, causing [*6 + 38.5% of Spell Power*] Shadow damage over 6 sec, and healing you for 600% of the damage done. Warlock - Demonology & Destruction Spec. 0% of Base Mana, plus 3% per sec. 40 yd range. 6 sec cast (Channeled). NEW: extra demo & destro drain

Edited by DkH.ZeRa, 12 October 2016 - 01:45 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 08:34 AM

Destruction

  • Cremation Immolate is now instant cast, and Conflagrate deals an additional 8% 5% of the target's total health in Fire damage. Destruction Warlock - Tier 4 PvP Talent.
  • Focused Chaos Chaos Bolt damage is increased by 200% 150%, but no longer strikes additional targets afflicted by Havoc. Destruction Warlock - Tier 4 PvP Talent.
  • Bane of Havoc Row 6, Column 3. Spell: Bane of Havoc. Replaces: Bane of Havoc

 

So they really replace our Havoc with this pve spell Bane of Havoc?

 

Thats the dead of the shadowburn spec. You deal half of the overall damage without old Havoc. Cremation nerf hits the shadow burn spec too.

 

 

They also nerfed Casting Circle and Focused Chaos. Thats very bad for the chaos bolt spec. If you choose Focused Chaos (only 150% buff) you will lose Firestone. Overall I cant see Destro being viable at highrating after 7.1.

 

I will reroll demo for now.


Edited by DkH.ZeRa, 19 October 2016 - 08:39 AM.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:52 AM

If you are crying because your 50% hitting ability got nerfed to like 35-40%, you are retarded. Destro is still gonna be really fcking good, but not broken.


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 01:25 PM

Honestly, you can't be surprised. Hitting for more than a million on an ability that can be cast potentially 3 or 4 times in a row (if not more due to soul shard procs) is not really balanced. Not saying you can get all those casts off, but it's still dumb. Plus, it's still a pretty big buff. And conflagration will still root. I think it'all be good and more fun than jumping around spamming shadowburn.
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Posted 19 October 2016 - 01:36 PM

P.s.

What do you guys suggest for the route to take for artifact power. I'm assuming get to the talent that increases bolt damage?
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Posted 19 October 2016 - 01:48 PM

Chaos Bolt nerf was expected, if it wasn't nerfed now it would have been after like 2 weeks anyway.

 

The Bane of Havoc talent is just a PvP talent, doesn't it do the exact same thing as it does on live? Just don't pick it, or am I missing something?

I still stand by what I said earlier though: I really hope that Cremation will NOT be the way to go for Destruction. By going for the Cremation/Shadowburn build, destro would have more instant cast damage than MoP Frost Mages...


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 03:56 PM

destro would have more instant cast damage than MoP Frost Mages...

 

 

The irony since Legion mages have chaos bolt. 


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