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#41 Forumz

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:32 PM

DH has the potential to play long, drawn out games by skipping out on Imprisonment and taking Mana Break instead, so if Warlocks end up being really good then that could be a thing.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 07:59 PM

Yeah I'm rather tempted in Affliction warlock to have high sustained damage and like you said, just get that or hell even take Death From Above making you pretty much counter long CC chains on your healer cause, hey, warlocks aint ever gonna fuckin die >.<


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 08:26 AM

Alright so hotfixes seems to be finalized for us.
Bloodlet will still be the nr 1 to go to choice in terms of damage.

However, with warlock buffs if proven to be a viable comp mana break & Death from Above might take their place as viable specs for longer games in setups like: DH/Warlock/healer.

On the other hand, melee cleaves are eating through healers such as Resto Shamans, will the peeling be enough from Warlock/DH to make the setup work vs such mindless teams?


Before updating sessions in this guide I need more testing to guarantee the quality of this guide.



(Sidenote: how the hell do i get a moderator to grant me the possibility to post images in my threads? I've already PM'd a few, noone is responding)


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 11:07 AM

Alright so hotfixes seems to be finalized for us.
Bloodlet will still be the nr 1 to go to choice in terms of damage.

However, with warlock buffs if proven to be a viable comp mana break & Death from Above might take their place as viable specs for longer games in setups like: DH/Warlock/healer.

On the other hand, melee cleaves are eating through healers such as Resto Shamans, will the peeling be enough from Warlock/DH to make the setup work vs such mindless teams?


Before updating sessions in this guide I need more testing to guarantee the quality of this guide.



(Sidenote: how the hell do i get a moderator to grant me the possibility to post images in my threads? I've already PM'd a few, noone is responding)

I like the idea of DH/affli/rshammy, but like you say, shammy is squishy and it might prove difficult to peel sufficiently for long games.

 

It's also interesting to consider what rating you want to aim for. Personally I'm 2.2k 2s 2.15k 3s in the past and I'd be happy aiming 2k+ in 3s, and for that I think a melee cleave will prove more efficient. 

 

I think the longer setup gameplay might prove more efficient at higher up ratings first of all. As far as I can tell, there are not many melee cleaves on top of the ladder, so once you've passed them, this comp will prove more efficient(I'm speculating).


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 12:21 PM

Personally I'm always striving towards R1. However, due to not playing for 2 expansions I am using the first season for Gladiator focus unless I can get people good enough and more up-to-date than I am to get higher than Glad.


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 09:09 PM

Quick question. Can you use reverse magic on touch of karma from monks? I tried it a few time, but felt like I was taking a lot of damage still after using it. I couldn't quite figure out if you could use it against him to really burn him down.


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 05:55 AM

Quick question. Can you use reverse magic on touch of karma from monks? I tried it a few time, but felt like I was taking a lot of damage still after using it. I couldn't quite figure out if you could use it against him to really burn him down.


Hey,

Apply Aura: Dummy
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(Taken directly from wowhead for Touch of Karma), it never places a spell based debuff on you which makes it unable to reverse with Reverse Magic.


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 06:54 AM

Hey,

Apply Aura: Dummy
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(Taken directly from wowhead for Touch of Karma), it never places a spell based debuff on you which makes it unable to reverse with Reverse Magic.

The new touch of karma applies a debuff on you instead of a buff on the monk, that's fine, and I don't expect that to be reversed, but the dot effect in mop and draenor was a magic debuff that could be dispelled. It's that debuff, which I think is a spell, might be reversable.


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:32 AM

Only way to doublecheck this is to get a duel going and confirm! Anyone up for it? (Im at work atm)


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 08:05 AM

Right now I've tried a ton of non-melee cleave setups with my DH and today I'll be testing a DH/Warlock/Rsham setup if this does not work, I'll probably go down to the most reliable setup for DH's which is DH/Arms/HPala or Rsham.

Will keep you guys posted of course.


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 02:27 PM

Quick question. Can you use reverse magic on touch of karma from monks? I tried it a few time, but felt like I was taking a lot of damage still after using it. I couldn't quite figure out if you could use it against him to really burn him down.

U can reverse magic the karma dot BUT you have to wait until the debuff is gone or else it will reapply. Or u can reverse half the damage when it only have 5sc left or u burst enough to reverse magic a lot of damage


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 06:19 PM

Alright I've tested DH/Warlock/healer, it was horrendous.


Looking at the setups I want to go Demonology / DH / Rsham right now.


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Posted 02 October 2016 - 07:03 PM

Alright so, the setups working for DH right now are cleaves mainly, I don't like the Mage/DH/healer setup but will be going with the DemoLock/DH/Rsham setup, it seemed to be very very strong if done correctly.


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 02:02 PM

Updated Thread:

 

Atm the most reliable setups for DH are scarse but good:
In order of personal preference:
 

DH / WWMonk / Hpala > Rdruid > other healer classes
DH / DemoLock / Rsham > Rdruid > other healer classes
DH / Arms / Hpala or Rdruid > other healer classes


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 10:18 PM

Updated section [1.5] Arena Compositions


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 12:16 PM

I've got myself into 1850cr - 1900+ MMR with DH/Assa/Shamy. We seem to do fine versus anything but mages. Is there any tips how you guys are handling fex. RMP ? Seems like they get the best of us everytime, so far trying to tunnel Mage to oblivion but theres just too much peels/CC and everyother shit when we start to get advantage, IF we are so lucky to start off well and get the pressure running.

Also i tried out Nemesis,Chaosblades, Meta, First Blood talents for maximum singletarget damage , but feels like im barely scratching them, watched some guides on the right rotation but meh they just laugh at me when i go for them and after CD:s run out i feel like im a handicap just trolling around.

EDIT: Wtf does reversemagic remove? Dots and novas i've seen but does it actually remove Fear/Stuns/Polymorph? -TY.


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 07:22 PM

EDIT: Wtf does reversemagic remove? Dots and novas i've seen but does it actually remove Fear/Stuns/Polymorph? -TY.

It's supposed to remove all Magic effects. That does not include Curses (Hex & Agony) or Poisons. You cannot use it while you're in a CC though, obviously. So you can't use it as a 2nd trinket (unless you want to get rid of a Root or Snare but yeah).


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Posted 23 October 2016 - 10:21 AM

I've got myself into 1850cr - 1900+ MMR with DH/Assa/Shamy. We seem to do fine versus anything but mages. Is there any tips how you guys are handling fex. RMP ? Seems like they get the best of us everytime, so far trying to tunnel Mage to oblivion but theres just too much peels/CC and everyother shit when we start to get advantage, IF we are so lucky to start off well and get the pressure running.

Also i tried out Nemesis,Chaosblades, Meta, First Blood talents for maximum singletarget damage , but feels like im barely scratching them, watched some guides on the right rotation but meh they just laugh at me when i go for them and after CD:s run out i feel like im a handicap just trolling around.

EDIT: Wtf does reversemagic remove? Dots and novas i've seen but does it actually remove Fear/Stuns/Polymorph? -TY.

Hey,

Currently we can tryhard ourselves up to 2.2-2.3k rating and if you are playing with r1 players you can reach higher if you really tryhard it. (leaderboards are a perfect example and proof of this statement).
Blizzard is listening (I hope) and are lookin into changes:
http://us.battle.net...549?page=29#566

 

Mages are a common issue to the massive ammount of rooting countering us hard. Will wait and see the upcoming changes before I can give you a proper answer.
Regarding Reverse Magic, it works just like Forumz said, don't forget that you can Reverse Magic the Karma DoT applied by monks to counter it. :)


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 07:15 AM

Read that Demon Blades will proc outside GCD (more procs). Is it even close to a good pick over Prepared/Demonic Appetite ? Thoughts?


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 01:38 PM

Prepared is just too good in a PvP setting. 10 seconds off one of our main repositioning abilities cannot be matched.


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