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Legion Beta so far


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#1 Randomguy

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

Rogue lost / got changed
- crippling poison for sub and combat
- wound poison for sub and combat
- shiv
(- disarm ) already got pruned for wod
- aoe stealth
(- improved stealth on use) already got pruned for wod
(- detect traps) already got pruned for wod
(- disarm traps) already got pruned for wod
(- tricks bonus dmg for teammate ) already got pruned for wod
- gouge for sub and assa
- blind for assa
- garrote for combat and sub
- smoke bomb -> pvp talent sub only
- dance bar
- combat readiness/nerve strike
- preparation
- premeditation now a passive (snd got removed and its substitute doesn't require cp)
- sub "rupture" -> magic debuff -> dispelable
- glyph of energy
- glyph of feint
- glyph of garrote
- glyph of cheap shot
- glyph of deadly momentum ( only nice for leveling/grinding but still)
- all other glyphs
- combat lost evasion vs hunter (dodge got changed to parry)
- sub lost find weaknesses and sang veins -> promotes mongo gamplay
- cloak and dagger ( auto shadowstep on ambush without cd) is now baseline for sub -> promotes mongo gameplay
- burst of speed is gone but there is a pvp talent that basically provides permanent freedom
- new combat aka outlaw has a chance to get 40 seconds of second wind (3%hp per second)

I'm pretty sure I forgot a few changes but so far I really dislike what blizzard is doing to rogues and considering how far we are into beta that's probably not gonna change :(

Are you guys still gonna play rogue or rather quit / switch class and what is your opinion on the removal of more and more CC

Edit: Talents still look boring AF

Edited by Randomguy, 13 June 2016 - 02:30 PM.

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#2 Maleficent

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 03:21 PM

So what happens when you Shadow Dance now with no bar?
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Posted 13 June 2016 - 07:41 PM

no use in complaining now

it's still in beta. we have no idea what will make it to retail

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 09:10 PM

So what happens when you Shadow Dance now with no bar?

You have to just make seperate keybinds for things like ambush (shadowstrike) vs backstab.

Even though they are more or less same ability just one with a stance requirement. Guess it's just adding artificial keybinds to make pruning look less insane.

Logic of if you prune everything why need a bar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Then again there's still a stealth bar, so blizzard has never understood logic.

Best part is you can't even force the functionality with [stance] macros or [stealth] / [nostealth] macros.

Edited by Nahj, 13 June 2016 - 09:11 PM.

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#5 Infernion

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 01:30 PM

They forgot to prune rogues in WoD, so now they are pruning rogue for two expansions. Welcome to World of Warcraft, where you don't have a million different buttons to press and instant CC with.
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#6 HeyimJack

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 01:54 PM

games just heading further into the gutter
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#7 Clamnesia

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 04:08 PM

Im all for pruning. More buttons =/= skill. Using less buttons more effectively = skill. Prune it all. 5-10 offensive (some being offensive cc) and 5-10 defensive (some being defensive cc) buttons is all you need. Promote skill in the game, not mongo-ism. Setup kills. Capitalize on bad position and bad skill usage to win games. Running in and popping every CD/skill you have to hit someone really hard, really quick, (Fury war, enhancement, dk, hunter (to lesser extent), mage (to lesser extent), DK, etc. is not fun gameplay. Spamming your cc chain once every minute when your mongo CDS are up and then running back to a pillar if you dont get a kill and waiting to repeat the same thing a minute later (RMD) is not fun gameplay.

I miss the days in this game when cds werent as strong and people held their cds to finish a kill, rather than popping them in the first 20 seconds of the game to start a kill. in my opinion, cooldowns should be llike executes and used skillfully at opportune moments, they should be used to give you that extra bit of juice to finish someone, rather than attempt to 100-0 someone before the game even hits the 1 minute mark.

in summary, prune all the bullcrap, nerf cds, promote skill play.
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Posted 03 July 2016 - 10:31 PM

sticking to rog
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