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#1 Zqae

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:07 PM

Hey,

I've been playing this comp lately and we've run into some problems, so I was wondering if any of you had some good advice for us.

General

As a melee cleave, we can't afford to play defensively because we lack crowd control, so we can't simply PvE & rotate our crowd controls and expect to win like most castercleaves can.

So far the best two strategies we've found are either zerging the enemy healer, or focusing one of their damage dealer and do a grab > FoF + monk burst combo onto their healer. Depending on the map and enemy comp, sometimes a double focus also seems to work well.

God Comps

Well we've tried everything and while we've had some success, it feels like it is more up to them to screw up than up to us to do what it takes to win.

Their CC chain on me is nearly impossible to counter (deep > sheep x3 > frostjaw > fear priest > silence + whatever cc their healer has) and even when I come out there's still a Counterspell to fake cast, because if I get caught during a cast it's essentially game over.

Sac'ing CC's seems nearly impossible with offensive purge being so retardedly strong.

Feral based teamcomps

It seems like focusing a feral druid is completely pointless, yet they deal so much damage and are so annoying if left alone.

Killing their healer while leaving a feral druid untouched is extremely complicated due to the sheer amount of peel they possess, and as I've said before feral druids just don't seem to die at all.

DK/rogue/healer

This is essentially much like a mirror, except they kill me a lot faster than my teammates can kill their healer. I can keep myself alive for some time against most melee cleaves, but this one is absurd. It does as much damage as feral/dk while having triple the amount of CC.

We've tried going all out on their healer while they zerg me and using our monk as a peeler for me, but it seems neither of these strategies work at all.

Disc priests in general

Anytime there's a disc priest, it seems like he just doesn't die. Regardless of whether we train him or simply swap him with a grab > FoF, they just seem to not die, and worse they often have enough crowd control in their teammates that they can even afford to run at me to try and fear me, which I'll eventually take because I'm not as mobile and have to cast quite a bit more and can't move while I cast unlike them.

Edited by Zqae, 16 December 2015 - 02:09 PM.

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#2 Guiltyas

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:14 PM

Bind W and run at healers
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#3 jaimee

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:26 PM

Bind W and run at healers


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:29 PM

Bind W and run at healers

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:43 PM

Implying there's a "strat" to playing that mongoloid comp is quite the overstatement.
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:43 PM

i like the strats boys but the best one is to follow jinngos call "keep going keep going" every time you see a resto shaman and without a doubt, you will reach the sky

Edited by Fedx, 16 December 2015 - 03:48 PM.

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#7 Maleficent

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:54 PM

i like the strats boys but the best one is to follow jinngos call "keep going keep going" every time you see a resto shaman and without a doubt, you will reach the sky

Why don't you queue WWLS
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:57 PM

Why don't you queue WWLS

i did but im too bad or the comp isn't very good. Maybe combination of both (smirk)
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#9 Preepx

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:33 PM

i did but im too bad or the comp isn't very good. Maybe combination of both (smirk)

U r too bad for this comp, it's right. Wwls requires using brains instead of playing ww/dk/hpala.
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:34 PM

I'm not vert high rated, but i just don't agree about feral. The classes that blows up faster than feral is only rogues and hunters in my experience. Even other ww seem to flop real fast. As a ww, you just can't be caught in a stun without nimble/trinket or pre karma/brew, you're basically dead if you blow trinket and nimble offensive :S i would love to learn how to play ww/dk myself, cause when i play it with my mates, we do worse than when we play turbo, and i'm most likely 4x better monk than warr :P
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:14 PM

U r too bad for this comp, it's right. Wwls requires using brains instead of playing ww/dk/hpala.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:34 PM

U r too bad for this comp, it's right. Wwls requires using brains instead of playing ww/dk/hpala.

done with AJ but just had to say, dont be an idiot, i played with both of u quite alot and he is more than 100x better than u, in both wwls+wwdk

Edited by Xonika, 16 December 2015 - 05:38 PM.

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#13 Jim_Jim

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:02 PM

This comp is like turbo or shatter, you can do lots of possible strats (Train a target, double focus with SEF, switch all the time), every one works, but usually, don't think too much, when you try to do something smart, it doesn't work. Train a target like a rmd and/or make brutal switch to another.
And do not focus a priest, like ever. Unless he's not with a hunter or a rogue/mage. Disc priest are not really trainable with that. But you can just switch all the time, and make him burn his mana, or kill his partner during a hoj/paralyze/silence.

For WWLS, it's not because a comp is not good that it's more difficult to play (Just use SEF more often, yay.). We were the only one playing this comp in MoP (ww/dk) before the rise, and it was not difficult as all.

Any wizardcleave with a mage/hpal should not lose against a ww/dk. You will probably have some troubles (hpal/mage PoV), like every others comps, but they should not lose at all.

Edited by Jim_Jim, 16 December 2015 - 06:03 PM.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:10 PM

done with AJ but just had to say, dont be an idiot, i played with both of u quite alot and he is more than 100x better than u, in both wwls+wwdk

So, maybe that's the reason, why u didn't got any rating while u played wwls with him :D
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:25 PM

So, maybe that's the reason, why u didn't got any rating while u played wwls with him :D

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:35 PM

U r too bad for this comp, it's right. Wwls requires using brains instead of playing ww/dk/hpala.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:08 PM

So, maybe that's the reason, why u didn't got any rating while u played wwls with him :D


how can you shit talk when you use gladiatorlossa like WTF IS THIS GAME.

you cant control ur character and focus on the game in a game that requires 30 apm and you shit talk XD
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:13 PM

how can you shit talk when you use gladiatorlossa like WTF IS THIS GAME.

you cant control ur character and focus on the game in a game that requires 30 apm and you shit talk XD

Sry, forgot to ask another WOD hero ;)
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:17 PM

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:50 PM

Sry, forgot to ask another WOD hero ;)


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