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Cheating, cheating and more cheating

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#1 Holypalaswe

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 01:52 PM

reposting this thread from battle.net forums that has now been removed due to naming and shaming policy, and also got removed from /r/wow reddit after getting 600 some comments in a few hours as I feel the problem shouldn't be quieted down.

archived link: https://web.archive....42934655?page=1

My older brother first introduced me to this game during the original beta. I've played since release and can remember making it to Orgrimmar before anyone else and seeing it completely empty on that thanksgiving weekend many years ago. I've had many fond memories over the 10 years of playing this game, but have become very weary of the state in which it is now. Maybe I'm a hypocrite. Maybe I'm not. I really don't care. The cheating is ruining the competition in this game. Those of you that I've played with believe you are good players and maybe even the best. But many of you cheat. You arrogantly cheat, you laugh about it and don't even give a [email protected]#$ that you ruin the game for everyone else.

The player base is becoming smaller and smaller. Few teams are left at the higher ratings and those that are, are almost all bots. I have repeatedly sent these videos in and yet these players are still active for weeks and months. I'm tired of it.

Botting locks explained

jfv admits to kick botting with evidence

Wlx botting

Botting on gilneas 11/23-11/24

Botting night of 11/22/2015 to morning of 11/23/2015

ABN botting 11/23

Wubzy team botting (chrishuman is the only lock near me)

Wubzy recruiting bot locks and advocating cheating:

mini and team botting - watch how perfectly timed curse of agony is reapplied even when it is about to run out.

minimelt kick botting

Fly hacking

Bnetplayer 2 (Hootz) flying


beepboops explained

asbur team botting

ABN botting 2 explained

ABN botting 1 explained


Janimal botting

Bailamos kick bot

Janimal and team DDoS me (soballer knew my skype and gave it to janimal)

Wodlocktko and Rickrude


Fly hacking videos:






go to 55 seconds and at 4:40 for fly hacking:






GM response:

Original videos without edit and explanations


ABN 2 (chickenman, reeky, hornswaggler)

ABN 3 (chickenman, lockolate, onefacedgod, playfacedgod)

Nemesis team (padre, reeky, dongod)
Watch at 10 seconds when I use stone form, all the dots are applied instantly

Asbur team (farmingthegy and chickenman)

Jake and sadclimax

bailamos team (janimal and immortalgod)

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#2 Avengelyne

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 02:10 PM

Let the witch hunt begin
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Posted 01 December 2015 - 02:40 PM

I think a well placed paradox will take care of them! In the name of Holinka justice must be served!
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Posted 01 December 2015 - 02:43 PM

As long as they aren't using bots for leveling/gearing alts (or selling heroin) you're posting that on the wrong forum.
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#5 Fennixqt

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 02:54 PM

if they qualify for regionals they might get banned kappa
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#6 Filthpig

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 03:19 PM

What? Do I smell actual evidence? ... on AJ!!?!?!

Edited by Filthpig, 01 December 2015 - 03:19 PM.

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#7 Jim_Jim

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 04:59 PM

Let the witch hunt begin


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#8 Freshlemons7474

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 05:45 PM

"Ours bots are superior in every aspect"

These people actually feel accomplished when a bot is playing their character? These are the type of people that wave with both hands.
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#9 Wrathful

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Cheating in PvP
Thanks for these reports. I've edited them out of the original post (we don't allow public callouts on the forums to avoid witch hunting), but passed them on to our hacks team for review.

For what it's worth, these sorts of things are exactly what we have the [email protected] email address for. Emailing that address is significantly more likely to result in action being taken than simply posting them on the forums. Of course, if you also emailed this report to that address, then that's all set. Just thought it worth mentioning.

If you do feel the need to make a forum post about it, that's fine, but please remember that calling out specific players in a public post is against the forum rules. While it's certainly true that cheaters exist, there are also a lot of players who get accused of cheating wrongly, and we want to avoid having legit players' names dragged through the mud.

Note that we can see previous versions of a post, so if you want to include a link to a video or name of a player in a post, you can edit it out immediately after posting and we'll be able to find it easily.

We know, Lore. We just don't believe the [email protected] results in meaningful action. Furthermore, we're so frustrated with the rampant cheating that calling out these inbred mongrels on the forum is a form of community catharsis and well worth the forum bans. But thanks for swinging by.
To your first point, I totally get where that perception comes from. Our policy has historically been to disclose as little information about actioned accounts as possible, but that's a conversation I'd like to revisit with the relevant people here at Blizzard. If we can find a way to be more open about when and what actions we take, I think that'd be pretty awesome. Can't make any promises though -- those are decisions I don't get to make.

To the second point, that's completely understandable as well. I'd just rather not see people banned from the forums who are only trying to help us catch more cheaters. That's why I recommended editing links out of posts after making them. We'll still see the links, but no forum rules are being broken. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:18 PM

man what happened
I remember when people used to somewhat respect ABN
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#11 Nicholaes92

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:22 PM

Now I'm not 100% sure how esea works with csgo. But I honestly think that their needs to be some sort of system like this in every game if you want to play competitively for in gsme rewards. Seriously, this is fucking ridiculous.
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who the fuck do u think you are, random fucking nobody, u dont deserve any of my time/effort retard. "tell me that a blizzcon" srsly? great fucking insult m9. dont even talk to me

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:53 PM

You guys cling to this game harder than private Pyle clinged on his rifle
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#13 Akrololz

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 06:55 PM

You should look at this next-lvl cheating :D

Edited by Akrololz, 01 December 2015 - 06:57 PM.

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#14 Freshlemons7474

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 07:12 PM

You guys cling to this game harder than private Pyle clinged on his rifle

Its just grasping at straws at this point. We'd love to see it come back to life, but you know, WoD happened.
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#15 Voksen

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 09:13 PM

Thank god theres AJ forums. Freedom of speech no longer a thing on WoW forums and sometimes even reddit.

I mean seriously...theres nothing vulgar, distasteful, or obscene in publically ousting and denouncing cheaters.
The evidence might be a bit weak at times but its not like someone spamming racist posts.

I know two or three people that have forum bans solely for posting about how shitty WoW is getting. I've been banned in Lore and other 'friends of blizzard's streams for linking shit like that too. What a joke.
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Posted 01 December 2015 - 09:50 PM

Big news, didn't know people cracked the blizzard code to get bots to work yet man. This is a let down, everytime I look at RBG ladder and dream of one day soaring and ascending to the upper echelon, it was all a pipe dream, it can never happen now. All of my idols and heroes and images of perfection are simply a facade. On this today of today the 26th of Nobemver, I am a brokened man.
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#17 Wrathful

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 10:38 PM

its cool Hekumz, ill still have your babies :( <3
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Posted 02 December 2015 - 12:52 AM

At this point in WoW I'd be surprised if people aren't cheating.
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#19 Smitey

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 01:52 AM

thanks sweboy for reposting this! some of the US players have started on EU and was quite obvious to notice the "Botlocks" with the retarded amount of kicks to start with.
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#20 Metaclassx

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 02:07 AM

Every single person in those videos was perma'd today btw.
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