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#21 ottishen

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:12 PM

Ranged 30 second cooldown stuns coupled with interrupts on every single class is what forces us into World of Instacraft. Trying to cast when every class has 2-3 ways of stopping you on a short cooldown is what makes every class with casted damage bad and is imo bad for the game. It's so fun to having to go through faking 2 interrupts just to realize that it doesn't matter as every class has enough lockdown to never allow you to cast even without them... I know that it is needed in the current metagame, but it is definantely something that needs to change if we want casters/healers to cast more.

This is of course not Stormbolt specific by any means, but it is definately included in this category together with every other short cooldown uncounterable disruptive ability. The reason why Stormbolt specifically gets hate is because of Turbo I would assume. Gonna admit, it is incredibly frustrating as a healer when the only form of CC needed to set me behind on healing is a 4 second stun every 30 seconds.

Edited by ottishen, 19 October 2015 - 09:13 PM.

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#22 GrandalMurmillo

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:15 PM

Ranged 30 second cooldown stuns coupled with interrupts on every single class is what forces us into World of Instacraft. Trying to cast when every class has 2-3 ways of stopping you on a short cooldown is what makes every class with casted damage bad and is imo bad for the game. It's so fun to having to go through faking 2 interrupts just to realize that it doesn't matter as every class has enough lockdown to never allow you to cast even without them... I know that it is needed in the current metagame, but it is definantely something that needs to change if we want casters/healers to cast more.

This is of course not Stormbolt specific by any means, but it is definately included in this category together with every other short cooldown uncounterable disruptive ability. The reason why Stormbolt specifically gets hate is because of Turbo I would assume. Gonna admit, it is incredibly frustrating as a healer when the only form of CC needed to set me behind on healing is a 4 second stun every 30 seconds.


that is why i want less damage from warriors and more control.

similar to mop without being op. as you say its stupid, but what else can the warrior really do to you.
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#23 ottishen

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:26 PM

that is why i want less damage from warriors and more control.

similar to mop without being op. as you say its stupid, but what else can the warrior really do to you.

I kind of like it more when it boils down to good cooldown useage (and of course making damage in-between cooldowns matter as well).

For instance, if Stormbolt/HoJ/Asphyxiate etc was 1 min cd or more, using it at the right time would be more important as otherwise you wasted your kill setup for a long period of time. In this case the team with the better cooldown management would have the edge which is a LOT better than both teams just using their stuns off cooldown. Of course, this would require massive changes in the game overall, like increasing the cooldown on defensive abilities and reducing instant cast spells accordingly.

Edited by ottishen, 19 October 2015 - 09:26 PM.

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#24 Cradienz

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:10 PM

ye. let me peel. oh fuck dodged.

rogues: let me peel. shit dodged. nvm gouge, nvm vanish cs, garrote.


You and this retarded type of mindset is what is currently fucking this game in the ass so hard.

Why the hell do you think that Warriors should even remotely be able to peel on a level the same as a Rogue? You are the reason pruning and generalization and homogenization and whatever shit is going on is happening.

What is the fucking definition of a Rogue supposed to be? Oh yes, control, stuning is supposed to be a damn synonym with Rogue, but it's not anymore, because of you and countless other peoples retarded mindset of "everyone should have everything."

You are a -Warrior-, do you expect your class to play like a fucking Rogue or have the same type of tools or even the same fucking type of control?

In WotLK you didn't even fucking have a stun in the first place unless you played Protection, what the fuck is making you feel like you are somehow obliged to even have stuns in the first place?

And you guys wonder why this game is dying? Fucking amazing



that is why i want less damage from warriors and more control.


I don't even... Are you fucking serious?

LOL

Edited by Cradienz, 19 October 2015 - 10:12 PM.

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#25 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:14 PM

I don't even... Are you fucking serious?

LOL

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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

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#26 Cradienz

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:19 PM

Thx mate
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#27 roastys

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:22 PM

no we should just make every class the same warriors should have a lot of peels like rog then game would be balanced 8D
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#28 Milaya

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:31 PM

mijaki is inbred.. if you don't know that at this point idk what to say

but hes a chemical engineer so... xdee


I have a well paid Job. Sorry that im not a retarded kid like you are.

Lets see you newest Master piece:

js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently


the next poster even in blues and greens so about what 710 Ilvl does this amount:

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unleash>surge, no trinket proc or anything.

So yeah, I'd say that can be done pretty consistently unless you're facing something with MS effects.

That was with honour weapons and about half green (skirmish box gear) half last season epic gear. so I'm sure it's not that hard with full gear.


You dont know anything...please just stay away from a forum for a few years. Everything you can contribute is a bad insult, or more the same over and over.

Mijaki EU rogue.


You complain about Rogue on a daily basis. Whats the difference ?

Edited by Milaya, 19 October 2015 - 10:32 PM.

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The Jaimex List:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

#29 jaimee

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:33 PM

I have a well paid Job. Sorry that im not a retarded kid like you are.

Lets see you newest Master piece:



the next poster even in blues and greens so about what 710 Ilvl does this amount:



You dont know anything...please just stay away from a forum for a few years. Everything you can contribute is a bad insult, or more the same over and over.



You complain about Rogue on a daily basis. Whats the difference ?


you understand what resto shaman mastery does you retarded fuck?
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#30 Milaya

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:37 PM

Yes read the other thread kid. If the target is about half health 200k is consisted. I saw CDew doing things like almost 300k on low health targets.

Or how about the 30k Lavaburst at max ?! You kid dont even know your own class.

Or the army of Disc priests that are unstoppable.

Edited by Milaya, 19 October 2015 - 10:49 PM.

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The Jaimex List:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

#31 jaimee

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:40 PM

Yes read the other thread kid. If the target is about half health 200k is consisted. I saw CD doing things like almost 300k on low health targets.

Or how about the 30k Lavaburst at max ?! You kid dont even know your own class.

Or the army of Disc priests that are unstoppable.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:46 PM

its easy to see how eager people are to even just chat in this forum, i make a garbage post and people flock.

even though i dont even think it was garbage, i asked a legit question.


i feel you missed the sarcasm here

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it's like getting repped by dizzeyo, i just don't know how to feel

Edited by Zzx, 19 October 2015 - 11:06 PM.

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#33 Milaya

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 11:05 PM

Jaimex list of arguments:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

You got another point to it. Keep it going.
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The Jaimex List:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

#34 FeralNisse

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 11:21 PM

Rogues complaining about stormbolt is actually hilarious, is mijaki milaya btw
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#35 Milaya

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:01 AM

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it's like getting repped by dizzeyo, i just don't know how to feel


Guess like getting it from Jaimex, Mixxy, Xonika and who ever i forgot.
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The Jaimex List:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

#36 HeyimJack

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:23 AM

Guess like getting it from Jaimex, Mixxy, Xonika and who ever i forgot.

who are u
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#37 Xonika

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:04 AM

Guess like getting it from Jaimex, Mixxy, Xonika and who ever i forgot.

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:40 AM

Is it borderline stupid? Yes, it is.
Does it deserve a daily complaint thread? No, it doesn't.
Especially given the fact that we had to give up Charge stun or Intercept for this, and Stormbolt is the dumber child of both. I'd make the change any day of the week if I were to have back Overpower aswell.

Warriors don't need more control, we need more stuff to play with. Logging Warmane or however Molten is called now, I look at the Wrath kit and feel myself way more in control than I've ever been throughout the whole WoD, whose only redeeming feature is mongo numbers out of Execute or MS.

For real tho, this game is full of dumb stuff. But random users just like to point fingers and go the NO U route.

Why the hell do you think that Warriors should even remotely be able to peel on a level the same as a Rogue?

For the exact same reason we now see 150+k of Death from Above. /S

In Wrath we had two stuns without speccing into Protection. In the case we did, we had four, and this was before the Revenge change.

I really enjoy people quoting Wrath's Protwar as that one time in which everyone didn't have everything.

The Protwar was the thing that started this whole "everyone has a cd for everything" empasse, and you lots mention it to mock Warriors who defend Stormbolt.
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#39 Milaya

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 01:51 AM

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who the fuck do u think you are, random fucking nobody, u dont deserve any of my time/effort retard. "tell me that a blizzcon" srsly? great fucking insult m9. dont even talk to me


God Ishayu you seem like a complete !@#$ing brainless idiot so keep your filthy peasant mouth shut, I'm here simply to show some respect to Wordtournan(feel free to pm me for a chat sometime if you'r interested) as I've noticed he has a brain and he doesn't say random bull%^-*.


See thats all your kind amounts to.

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Edited by Milaya, 20 October 2015 - 02:00 AM.

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The Jaimex List:

1) Priest in WoD Season 2 are OP
2) Hydra is the one of the worst Priests
3) No one loses a Glad spot for Boosting
4) Ele Shamans only hit for 30k LB even though Zeepeye did 49k like 3 weeks into S2
5) Boosting is not against the ToS
6) Money from Boosts do not need to get taxed
7) Supply and demand is the reason for boosts
8) js rshamans dont heal 200k unless they get lucky, maybe 100k consistently

#40 Violatrix

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:29 AM

just make it dodge/parryable


...and make anger management not apply to it.
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