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#1 ContortedTV

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 02:29 PM

Erm...

Maybe I'm the only one; I liked DFA pre 6.2 because it was fun and you could immune things with it

Looks cool, hits hard

Uhm... I think it should be nerfed?

It seems way too strong at the moment for Subtletly/Assassination. Being immune for like 3s and hitting someone for 150k on the opener if you crit seems rather dumb.

I hate abilities with low amounts of counter play tho, it's why I don't like Storm Bolt (not saying nerf/remove storm bolt).

Thoughts? I don't know how you would nerf it, maybe make the animation faster/less deceptive (you're still immune for like 1s after you land), make it deal less damage/100% crit chance evic?

Or maybe I'm blowing it out of proportion, I just think it's a little too strong at the moment.
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#2 Lloix

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 05:01 PM

They'd have to either remove it or change the animation if they keep the immunity. The ten year animation is dumb.
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#3 GrandalMurmillo

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 05:58 PM

i think you are the first rogue that doesnt want stormbolt removed.

everyone i talk to cry all day and want stormbolt removed because its unfair that they cant dodge it.

evasion isnt op enough i guess.
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#4 Freshqtz

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 06:54 PM

Getting damn near 100-0'd by some shitter rogue just because he crit with his mortal combat-esque ability is obviously poor game design. Imo dfa should get the killing spree treatment and allow it to be cc'd so at least when you see it you can actually do something about it when you don't have a defensive to counter it. Watching a rogue slowly fall to the ground as a sheep might seem retarded but the immunity dfa gives you is honestly more op than the rng crits it'll sometimes produce.
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#5 roastys

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 06:56 PM

dfa dumb and gay move
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 07:00 PM

also nerf the time you are immune, too often you immune stuff like 2 seconds after you already landed on the ground.

lame ability.
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 07:39 PM

Amusing how a class like rogue managed to keep the 100k-150k envenoms/evicerate,whereas Dks got nerfed after the frost strike buff becouse tbey were doing an average of 80ks frost strikes, needless to say mages do 100k novas from range. Seems legit.
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 08:27 PM

I consither that dfa is a dumb ability and it doesn't really fit to rogue's playstyle (it's great from a lore perspective though) and I'd like it to get removed from the game and recieve a 10-20% buff on ambush for example, which hits so low imo (I'm only talking about sub).
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 09:13 PM

Amusing how a class like rogue managed to keep the 100k-150k envenoms/evicerate,whereas Dks got nerfed after the frost strike buff becouse tbey were doing an average of 80ks frost strikes, needless to say mages do 100k novas from range. Seems legit.


Yeah, there should only be 3 classes Ranged, Melee and Healer.
All should do the same dmg and should have the same abilitys.

but tbh. they can nerf the novas, when I get 5 Charges like Frost Strike has, probably more if u are good in managing runes etc. Kappa


Let alone the small diversity WoW has still left.
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#10 ContortedTV

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 10:10 PM

Getting damn near 100-0'd by some shitter rogue just because he crit with his mortal combat-esque ability is obviously poor game design. Imo dfa should get the killing spree treatment and allow it to be cc'd so at least when you see it you can actually do something about it when you don't have a defensive to counter it. Watching a rogue slowly fall to the ground as a sheep might seem retarded but the immunity dfa gives you is honestly more op than the rng crits it'll sometimes produce.


100% this. Can literally lose the game to the inability to stop DFA and the RNG crit.

i think you are the first rogue that doesnt want stormbolt removed.

everyone i talk to cry all day and want stormbolt removed because its unfair that they cant dodge it.

evasion isnt op enough i guess.


Don't get ahead of yourself; Stormbolt is a stupid fucking ability. I just think if you removed/nerfed it from warriors right now; they would be rendered nearly useless. This is different; rogues don't need this ability. Venom Rush is fine and rogues would do fine with it. Death From Above is just too strong at the moment.

I agree, you should be CC'able during the animation, or the animation should be sped up and the dmg nerfed.
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 11:20 PM

Getting damn near 100-0'd by some shitter rogue just because he crit with his mortal combat-esque


It has some downsides though. For instance, I crit one time with dfa then I became bulgarian.
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Posted 08 October 2015 - 09:47 PM

They buffed it in the wrong way imo. Instead of increasing the damage they should have lowered the energy cost. Also don't forget the aoe hit it does. Sometimes it hits for 20-30k I think, so add that to the dfa damage.
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#13 Freshqtz

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 09:01 PM

It has some downsides though. For instance, I crit one time with dfa then I became bulgarian.


Early on in wod Bulgarian Jesus specced dfa and crit for our sins, now all mortal rogues are able to use dfa freely and without guilt.
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#14 Ashleyirl

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 09:14 PM

I consither that dfa is a dumb ability and it doesn't really fit to rogue's playstyle (it's great from a lore perspective though) and I'd like it to get removed from the game and recieve a 10-20% buff on ambush for example, which hits so low imo (I'm only talking about sub).



this.

or just buff backstab, hemo base damage by a considerable amount
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#15 Cocoapuffs

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 09:19 PM

They buffed it in the wrong way imo. Instead of increasing the damage they should have lowered the energy cost. Also don't forget the aoe hit it does. Sometimes it hits for 20-30k I think, so add that to the dfa damage.

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#16 Regent

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 11:59 PM

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ayy lameo balanced game m8s
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:50 AM

It has some downsides though. For instance, I crit one time with dfa then I became bulgarian.

what is wrong with being bulgarian man :(
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 08:02 AM

cloth, but still dumb for having no mastery buff as it would do ~200k with the mastery buff - http://www.twitch.tv...elol/v/18405562 170k dfa 40k aoe
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:58 PM

I think death from above is fine, nerfing it will only make rogues use the other talents. It's a skilled ability, you can use it in many ways such as gap closer, avoiding CC, or for its raw damage. It's damage is predictable too. Without trinket proc's, its pretty flaky. If it doesn't crit, its meh.
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:09 PM

I think death from above is fine, nerfing it will only make rogues use the other talents. It's a skilled ability, you can use it in many ways such as gap closer, avoiding CC, or for its raw damage. It's damage is predictable too. Without trinket proc's, its pretty flaky. If it doesn't crit, its meh.

lol
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