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#1 Zoobip

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:34 PM

Hi guys,

I can't remember fighting any elemental :shaman: shamans at all this season.

Noone plays elemental anymore? that's how it feels like anyways - what has made elementals give up?
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#2 jaimee

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:36 PM

basically that enhance is just a better version of ele
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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:53 PM

basically that enhance is just a better version of ele


Speaking of which Jamie. Have you made an enhance guide?
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#4 jaimee

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:58 PM

Speaking of which Jamie. Have you made an enhance guide?


I haven't and I'll be the ele the second that they change anything with the spec so yea... only play enhance cause you cant be competitive as ele.
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#5 Dwblameme

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 01:19 PM

Hi guys,

I can't remember fighting any elemental :shaman: shamans at all this season.

Noone plays elemental anymore? that's how it feels like anyways - what has made elementals give up?


There are 2 eles in EU that are competative as ele so i wouldn't say spec is complete trash:

http://eu.battle.net...crest/Lockbete/
http://eu.battle.net...egwynn/Proccit/

But yeah gl finding ppl who will play with ele instead of enha.
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#6 Atosy

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 01:46 PM

they are mostly playing enha.
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#7 Celinedijon

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:53 PM

I met lockbete in 3s yesterday, he was playing ele lsd on 2.7. Ele best spec confirmed Kappa.
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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:00 PM

well ele can work ofc, but its just worse. Proccit didnt play ele for most of his games to 2750, zeepeye did play a decent amount of ele but like, he struggles at 2.7 when he could be 2.9 as enhance lsd. It's just worse.
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#9 Freshqtz

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:27 PM

Ele seems to be designed so poorly in wod. Like I was watching wallirik's stream the other day playing with zeepeye as ele and one game his earthquake was roughly 40% of his damage. Such an awkward way of maximizing damage if you ask me.
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Posted 21 September 2015 - 10:02 PM

Ele seems to be designed so poorly in wod. Like I was watching wallirik's stream the other day playing with zeepeye as ele and one game his earthquake was roughly 40% of his damage. Such an awkward way of maximizing damage if you ask me.

Celestalon and the team did a great job with spec design this xpac. :duckers:
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#11 Zoobip

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:56 AM

What should be done to improve elemental then?

Is it an improvement to damage that is needed - or a change of mechanics, like going back to punishment for dispelling flame shock (could open up for more team setups).

As elemental, you're hard casting a lot of spells in order to do any significant damage - but is it too much compared to other casters?

Maybe it is just a matter of a major glyph or talent being changed to something baseline (like totemic projection or hex w/e).
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Posted 22 September 2015 - 02:15 PM

Would be nice if elemental blast was rewarded for getting a cast off, like getting 2 stacks of LS off the back of it or something
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Posted 24 September 2015 - 10:00 PM

What should be done to improve elemental then?

Is it an improvement to damage that is needed - or a change of mechanics, like going back to punishment for dispelling flame shock (could open up for more team setups).

As elemental, you're hard casting a lot of spells in order to do any significant damage - but is it too much compared to other casters?

Maybe it is just a matter of a major glyph or talent being changed to something baseline (like totemic projection or hex w/e).


Looking back, ele has only been in a good spot when lava burst poses a big threat and when either defenses are ok/rogues are not omnipresent because of godmode. Cause lava burst isn't a big threat at the moment (not to the extend like it used to be, both because of innate damage and the way crits work in pvp) and eventhough defensive wise ele is ok, they get completely shut down by any rogue. From my point of view (as a non top player) rogues can sit on the ele 24/7 w/o giving a flying fuck cause they are hard to kill, and in the little timeframe ele has they can't put out enough damage.

The fact that pretty much every class has some sprint/blink and many slows are applied automatically doesn't really help either when you have to hardcast your main stuff. I so hope they reduce/remove many of the movement speed tools in the game come Legion. You literally start casting on a target as an ele, and by the time you are about to finish the target is on the other side of the map.
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