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Proc trinket still bugged?


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#1 erskjans

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 03:19 AM

Hey, I Heard a while back that the conquest proc trinket was bugged and didn't give the right amount of strenght, is this true and is it still like that?
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#2 Aylien

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 12:48 PM

Yep, have tested it just now, found only 1397 str in battle/1056 str off battle on the epic one.
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 01:46 PM

It's intended according to lore.

https://twitter.com/...271627340488706
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 04:37 PM

It seems like they shifted itembudget from procc to passive Versatility and messed up tooltips in the process.

Example (NOT ACTUAL PERCENTAGES!):
last season/blue trinkets: 50%Versa/50%Procc
epic trinket: 55%Versa/45%Procc



Edit:
According to Simcraft
Wild Combatant's Insignia of Conquest scaled to ilvl 730 would have 427Versa+1514Agiprocc
compared to
Wild Gladiator's Insignia of Conquest with 469Versa+1330Agiprocc @ ilvl 730

So, taking Rogue Stat Values with Agi being about twice as good as Versa it seems like the Insignia still lost a pretty big amount of value. Warforged blue Insignia is probably better.

Spelldata details:

Combatant
id:182059 http://www.wowhead.c...rge-of-conquest
name:Surge of Conquest
tooltip:Increases Agility by {$s1=490}.
description:Increases Agility by {$s1=490} for {$d=20 seconds}.

Gladiator

id:190026 http://www.wowhead.c...rge-of-conquest
name:Surge of Conquest
tooltip:Increases Agility by {$s1=431}.
description:Increases Agility by {$s1=431} for {$d=20 seconds}.


TLDR: They changed the distribution of Insignias' itembudget and also fucked up the tooltip in the process.

Edited by Randomguy, 15 August 2015 - 05:55 PM.

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#5 Alexyuh123

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 05:02 PM

isn't it just a tooltip bug? that's what all the devs are sayin
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 09:55 PM

It seems like they shifted itembudget from procc to passive Versatility and messed up tooltips in the process.

Example (NOT ACTUAL PERCENTAGES!):
last season/blue trinkets: 50%Versa/50%Procc
epic trinket: 55%Versa/45%Procc



Edit:
According to Simcraft
Wild Combatant's Insignia of Conquest scaled to ilvl 730 would have 427Versa+1514Agiprocc
compared to
Wild Gladiator's Insignia of Conquest with 469Versa+1330Agiprocc @ ilvl 730

So, taking Rogue Stat Values with Agi being about twice as good as Versa it seems like the Insignia still lost a pretty big amount of value. Warforged blue Insignia is probably better.

Spelldata details:

Combatant
id:182059 http://www.wowhead.c...rge-of-conquest
name:Surge of Conquest
tooltip:Increases Agility by {$s1=490}.
description:Increases Agility by {$s1=490} for {$d=20 seconds}.

Gladiator

id:190026 http://www.wowhead.c...rge-of-conquest
name:Surge of Conquest
tooltip:Increases Agility by {$s1=431}.
description:Increases Agility by {$s1=431} for {$d=20 seconds}.


TLDR: They changed the distribution of Insignias' itembudget and also fucked up the tooltip in the process.


So with this change is the proc trinket still the best for none human warrior or should I go dor strenght on use or the static strenght mastery one?
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 10:14 PM

Think it epends on playstyle/preferrences

Most DMG overall: Str+Static Mastery
Highest Burst: Procc
Controlled Burst: On-Use

If you can get your hands on WF Combatant's Procc Trinket you probably should use that - and generally speaking if you want to play with Procc you should buy the epic as one of your last pieces(after you bought all mastery pices).

I will be running Static+Procc on my human which seems to be what most warriors are doing.

I can only provide a bit of numbers - I have no idea what non-humans should wear... you'll have to figure it out yourself. Sorry ^^'

Edit: Blizo wears static mastery on his gnome.

Edited by Randomguy, 15 August 2015 - 10:19 PM.

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#8 erskjans

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 10:31 PM

Think it epends on playstyle/preferrences

Most DMG overall: Str+Static Mastery
Highest Burst: Procc
Controlled Burst: On-Use

If you can get your hands on WF Combatant's Procc Trinket you probably should use that - and generally speaking if you want to play with Procc you should buy the epic as one of your last pieces(after you bought all mastery pices).

I will be running Static+Procc on my human which seems to be what most warriors are doing.

I can only provide a bit of numbers - I have no idea what non-humans should wear... you'll have to figure it out yourself. Sorry ^^'

Edit: Blizo wears static mastery on his gnome.


Thanks, just as I thinking then, it's sort of comp dependent I guess.
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#9 Aylien

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 05:11 AM

I would go static+proc on my human arms warrior, and crit medallion + str on use for my dwarf fury, which I feel better for comps like wmd/kfc.
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