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#1 Zizilio

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:15 PM

Hey guys, just wondering has anyone ran a sim on Survival/MM stat priority for PvP? I've been browsing other Survival/MM armories and it seems like everyone is doing their own thing. Just curious if anyone knows for sure.

Noxxic suggests for Survival: Multistrike > Agility = Versatility > Crit > Haste > Mastery

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Noxxic suggests for MM: Multistrike > Agility = Versatility > Mastery > Crit > Haste

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Personally I feel like the best stat priority for Survival and BM is Agility > Versa > Mastery > Crit > Multistrike

And for MM Agility > Versa > Crit > Haste > Multistrike > Mastery

Edited by Zizilio, 29 July 2015 - 08:18 PM.

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#2 Mparr65

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:17 PM

Noxxic is bad, :duckers: those are pve sims and don't account for crit and multistrike being reduced in pvp.

From what I've seen, it seems to be Agi>Versa>Mastery>Crit>=haste>Multistrike for BM and Surv with Mastery enchants and Hemet's heartseeker on wep. Granted I go with this because I'm a sheep and follow my lord and savior Dillypoo.
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#3 eltharyonlol

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:39 PM

MS being better than crit for MM, even in pve doesn't make sense, critting with aimed gets you focus back, ms procs do not or am I missing something?

Also imo, ms was better for surv pre-patch, when you would spam arcane and re-apply serpent sting continiously which could multistrike, but now with the mastery scaling increase I feel we get more and better damage from that.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:50 PM

Current stat Priority for pure dmg

SV: Agility>Mastery>Versa>Multi~crit>haste

MM: Agility>Crit>Versa>Multi>haste>Mastery
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:53 PM

Current stat Priority for pure dmg

SV: Agility>Mastery>Versa>Multi~crit>haste

MM: Agility>Crit>Versa>Multi>haste>Mastery


Basing this off what? Lookin for someone whos thoroughly tested it not just assumptions.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:58 PM

Basing this off what? Lookin for someone whos thoroughly tested it not just assumptions.


based off current PVE stat weights. Crit and Multi are effectively halved as far as value in PVP cuss well.... They are half as effective.

The priority changes but for MM you still want crit because Crit has more value than damage potential for MM because of the focus regen benefit of critting with aimed shot.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:45 PM

based off current PVE stat weights. Crit and Multi are effectively halved as far as value in PVP cuss well.... They are half as effective.

The priority changes but for MM you still want crit because Crit has more value than damage potential for MM because of the focus regen benefit of critting with aimed shot.


Appreciate the responses, still not sure if Multi is equal to crit considering the Survivalist passive w/ surv

Edited by Zizilio, 29 July 2015 - 11:56 PM.

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#8 ijustdontknowwhattodo

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 02:11 AM

hey guys, I just got the accolade of conquest (305 agi 305 mastery).

Is this trinket better than the trinkets that are available to buy?


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:31 AM

I dont do any theorycrafting or run any numbers or any of that nerdy tryhard shit, but Im oretty sure mastery would be the best stat for SV right?

Mastery > Vers > Agil > Crit > Multi

This is what I run when playing SV as jungle.

Mastery got buffed a ton, serpent sting, the thing mastery benefits, also got a huge buff. So basically mastery got its effectiveness increased by two huge buffs, that seems like as legitmate reason as any to stack it now. If your partners give the mastery buff it makes all that stacking even more effective. Versatility is always good, more damagw, better defense, just a great all around stat to have. I put agility third because while it's the best stat for physical damage, SV does mainly DoT and magic damage, but agility is still good to have for white hits and arcane, also if it affects explosove's initial hit(?). I like crit better than multi since, again, it's more effective when your partners give a crit buff, it also helps add in some burst with explosive shot procs. Maybe multi is better though, Im not sure.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 05:12 PM

For survival, according to simcraft:
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Posted 31 July 2015 - 05:22 PM

For survival, according to simcraft:
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There is no way versa > mastery still, it was already barely better last season. I dont think its counting the 19% buff we got at the start of the patch maybe?

Edited by Imtaz, 22 November 2015 - 04:24 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 11:59 AM

There is no way versa > mastery still, it was already barely better last season. I dont think its counting the 19% buff we got at the start of the patch maybe?

Anyway rest is correct and glinksz why the fuck u rate multistrike as your worst stat? Surival has passive 5% Multistrike increase btw. what u probably didn't know. U can twitch pm me for tips etc. <3

Also arcane shot is arcane damage not physical gets increased by mastery. Also agility isn't even worth mentioning in stat priority since it basically comes with every piece of gear.


Mastery = 92 rating for 1% magic damage increase
Versatility = 130 rating for 1% damage increase

Versatility also increases autoattack, pet and crows damage, mastery doesnt. + it makes you tankier, I'd say go for versatility in any situation.
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Posted 01 August 2015 - 08:01 PM

Mastery = 92 rating for 1% magic damage increase
Versatility = 130 rating for 1% damage increase

Versatility also increases autoattack, pet and crows damage, mastery doesnt. + it makes you tankier, I'd say go for versatility in any situation.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:48 PM

You forgot 20% more dmg from multistrikes as passive for sv :P
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Posted 20 November 2015 - 08:08 AM

Is this still the case with vers?
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Posted 22 November 2015 - 04:23 PM

Nevermind ..
Sorry, your post must be at least 2 word(s) long.

Edited by Imtaz, 22 November 2015 - 04:24 PM.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 11:26 AM

Are there any stat caps for MM? Actually I got a crit cap of ~53%. I guess it's not bad at all. Are there also caps for versality or ms?
I'm wondering, because my dmg is not very well.. ~30k dps and in Bgs sometimes behind equal equipt warris..

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