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#1 Atosy

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Posted 13 March 2015 - 09:29 PM

Hello guys, i've been wondering what is the most correct stat prior for affli.
Most of the locks use this pattern:

Int>Haste>Mastery>Versa>Multi>Krit

So this basically means, that we should use(if we are using leg+hands 2p):
-krit haste neck over mastery multistrike neck (77 haste vs 89 mastery)
-mastery versa shoulder over haste multistrike shoulder
-mastery versa waist over haste multistrike waist
-krit haste ring over pve mastery versa ring (ik it's only 680 ilvl, but wallirikz said it is better).

But most affli lock guides (icy-veins, noxxic) says this is our stat prior:

Intellect > Haste > Mastery > Multistrike >= Crit > Versatility

Im basically playing WLS at 2.5 mmr, and idk if i should go only haste, or use the versa items (shoulder+ waist, maybe ring).
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#2 Chanimal

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 01:29 AM

Haste > Mastery > Versatility >>> Multistrike >= Crit

*Haste slightly favoured over mastery
*I choose to break 4pc, up to you. Always use haste/vers helm regardless of what you do.

Neck:
Mast/Multi (gives more mastery than the Haste/crit one gives haste)

Shoulders:
Vers / Mastery (mastery/vers trumps haste / multistrike. multistrike sucks absolute ass compared to vers, and mastery is close to haste

Chest:
Haste/Mastery

Gloves:
Haste/Mastery (for 2pc)

Legs:
Mastery/Multi (for 2pc)

Belt:
Vers/Mastery (same logic as shoulders)

Ring:

idk, difference is super small here any way, if you cba to farm the ring just use haste/crit and haste/multi. If you use the PvE ring, use it with the haste/multi one.

Edited by Chanimal, 14 March 2015 - 01:30 AM.

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#3 Wallirik

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 01:41 AM

why wouldn't you use shoulders/gloves to get 2set? and then mastery/versa rep legs.
shoulders have less budget for the less desired stat (set legs multistrike vs shoulders crit, both give mastery) - multi and crit are equally bad, multi just slightly less rng.

Of course this pretty much doesn't make any difference at all, but ye that's what I use.
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Posted 14 March 2015 - 02:07 AM

@Chanimals: Hmmm thx for your help. Btw for neck, u get 77 haste+Erad+Shaman buff which gives you : 77*1.05*1.05= 84.8925, so after this we get
~85 haste+89 krit vs 89 mastery+77 multistrike. Did i miscalculated smth, or the mastery one is still better?

@Wallirikz: for shoulder and legs theory i did the maths and got the following:
-if I use set shoulders+versa leg i get ( 158 versa, 247 mastery, 110 krit)
-if I use versa shoulders+set leg i get ( 118 versa, 249 mastery, 147multistrike)

Basically isnt the multistrike a litle better than krit?
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#5 Wallirik

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 03:05 AM

@Wallirikz: for shoulder and legs theory i did the maths and got the following:
-if I use set shoulders+versa leg i get ( 158 versa, 247 mastery, 110 krit)
-if I use versa shoulders+set leg i get ( 118 versa, 249 mastery, 147multistrike)

Basically isnt the multistrike a litle better than krit?

You get more versa, and less bad stat. It's versa vs multi/crit.
40 versa vs 37 multi and 2 mastery.
Versatility>multistrike, etc.
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:07 AM

Haste/crit neck is really close to mastery/multi one, I'm prob going to use haste one though because I like haste more

You get more versa, and less bad stat. It's versa vs multi/crit.
40 versa vs 37 multi and 2 mastery.
Versatility>multistrike, etc.


woops I spaced out...

ty :]

What do you think of using socketed haste/mastery cloak, 680 gruul haste mastery neck and 680 maidens haste mastery ring (with the legendary ring ofc).

Edited by Chanimal, 15 March 2015 - 01:36 AM.

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#7 tiyona

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 02:45 AM

I wonder if Primal Gladiator's Badge of Adaption (244 mastery trinket + on use versatility) is still better than Primal Gladiator's Badge of Dominance (244 intellect trinket + same on use versatility) as affliction.
Does anybody knows that?
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#8 Wallirik

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:50 AM

What do you think of using socketed haste/mastery cloak, 680 gruul haste mastery neck and 680 maidens haste mastery ring (with the legendary ring ofc).

unsure about the cloak, didn't really check the stat difference. I think it's worth using the neck and ring though.
As demo I'm using 670 ring from kargath with a socket for extra mastery :^)
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:57 AM

unsure about the cloak, didn't really check the stat difference. I think it's worth using the neck and ring though.
As demo I'm using 670 ring from kargath with a socket for extra mastery :^)


PvP cloak vs socketed kromog 680 cloak:

14 int 21 stamina 14 haste vs 44 mastery (gemmed 50 mastery)

Probably going to use it, even though it's not that much of a difference. My neck + ring aren't socketed btw
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:14 AM

I wonder if Primal Gladiator's Badge of Adaption (244 mastery trinket + on use versatility) is still better than Primal Gladiator's Badge of Dominance (244 intellect trinket + same on use versatility) as affliction.
Does anybody knows that?

it seems like there is no general consensus as a lot of warlocks use double on use, proc and on use (int base stat), proc and on use (master base stat)
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 12:35 PM

PvP cloak vs socketed kromog 680 cloak:

14 int 21 stamina 14 haste vs 44 mastery (gemmed 50 mastery)

Probably going to use it, even though it's not that much of a difference. My neck + ring aren't socketed btw

Ah, I'd use the cloak too then. and yeah neck/ring without a socket.
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:24 PM

it seems like there is no general consensus as a lot of warlocks use double on use, proc and on use (int base stat), proc and on use (master base stat)

If Int>Haste>Mastery>Versa>Multi>Krit is correct, the on use trinket with int base should be better than on use mastery base trinket right?
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 09:54 AM

it seems like there is no general consensus as a lot of warlocks use double on use, proc and on use (int base stat), proc and on use (master base stat)


You use the int on use no matter what, int>> mastery

With 6.1 I experimented with double on-use and preferred it over proc trinket since games were quite short, but I think in slower games proc + on use (int) is better now for everything.
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:53 PM

I'd wondered about going double on use, but lining up the proc+DS+on-use every few demon souls is just too tasty.
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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:22 PM

You use the int on use no matter what, int>> mastery

With 6.1 I experimented with double on-use and preferred it over proc trinket since games were quite short, but I think in slower games proc + on use (int) is better now for everything.

yea i agree with the int on use but that's not the case when i looked over at EU armory
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#16 Chanimal

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 11:27 PM

yea i agree with the int on use but that's not the case when i looked over at EU armory


I don't think using mastery on use over int on use is better for any situation at all.

Int just weighs way more than mastery (this is an affliction thread). The only time it MIGHT be better is Demo, but even then I don't know if the damage from mastery in demon form outweighs the damage from int
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Posted 23 March 2015 - 05:06 AM

why is multi better than crit? i dont think there's any specific class modifier to any of them and they are both mathematically equal.
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Posted 23 March 2015 - 06:28 AM

why is multi better than crit? i dont think there's any specific class modifier to any of them and they are both mathematically equal.

Multistrikes on Nightfall procs reward you with 2 shards instead of just 1.
It's a small boost to the stat, but a boost nonetheless
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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:16 AM

Multistrikes on Nightfall procs reward you with 2 shards instead of just 1.
It's a small boost to the stat, but a boost nonetheless

some classes have crit immune abilities or reduced crit chance abilities.
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Posted 23 March 2015 - 02:10 PM

Multistrikes on Nightfall procs reward you with 2 shards instead of just 1.
It's a small boost to the stat, but a boost nonetheless

That's actually not true. Go test it on a dummy. You probably got a shard from set bonus and corruption proc at the same time :P
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