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#1 Jaws

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:37 AM

We’ve recently made a slight change to how crowd control diminishing returns function, and would like to provide some concrete information on exactly what’s been changed and why.

As most of you are likely aware, there is a brief window of time after a crowd control effect has been applied, during which further crowd control effects of the same category will have a decreased duration. In patch 6.0.3, due to the method used to update diminishing returns, that window could last anywhere from 15 to 20 seconds.

Patch 6.1 added some new functionality that allows diminishing returns to update much faster, which means we can be a lot more precise with exactly how long they last. So, we made a recent hotfix that changes the duration of diminishing returns to 18 seconds. That means diminishing returns should last about as long as they did on average prior to these changes, but you’re able to have a much clearer idea of exactly when they’ll end.

http://us.battle.net...c/16529192789#1
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 10:12 AM

finaly xD
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 10:35 AM

We’ve recently made a slight change to how crowd control diminishing returns function, and would like to provide some concrete information on exactly what’s been changed and why.


I bet they didn't know about it until AJ found out. They should inform about this stuff in the patch notes.
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#4 Naraga

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 04:48 PM

Bluepost is saying its at 18 seconds exactly.

Holinka said between 18 and 18.4

Which is it?
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Druid utility is superior to shamans utility already

all the other healers should be buffed up to the point of having a way of not having to outplay 2 dps to survive

Thunka 2.0

disc is way way better than druid.


#5 Thaya

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 04:52 PM

the difference between 18 seconds and 18.4 seconds isnt that big mate
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#6 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 04:58 PM

Bluepost is saying its at 18 seconds exactly.

Holinka said between 18 and 18.4

Which is it?

previously it was 15 seconds, but the servers only updated every 5 seconds, so it was actually between 15 and 20 seconds depending on the server cycles

now the servers update drs every 0.5 seconds, so its between 18 and 18.5 seconds

stop worrying about it so much :)
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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


#7 Naraga

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 05:17 PM

the difference between 18 seconds and 18.4 seconds isnt that big mate

nah it can only make the difference between a win and a loss :rolleyes:
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Druid utility is superior to shamans utility already

all the other healers should be buffed up to the point of having a way of not having to outplay 2 dps to survive

Thunka 2.0

disc is way way better than druid.


#8 Thaya

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 05:26 PM

nah it can only make the difference between a win and a loss :rolleyes:

that difference is comparable to network and server tick delays

set it to 18.5 in your addon to be on the safe side =)
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#9 Forumz

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 09:03 PM

that difference is comparable to network and server tick delays

set it to 18.5 in your addon to be on the safe side =)

I've done this.

Isn't that technically a slight CC nerf though? If it was on average 17.5 seconds before, it will now be ~18.2 on average.

Granted, that is really not a very noticeable time change. But still.

Edited by Forumz, 04 March 2015 - 09:03 PM.

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 09:17 PM

you can't compare them like that

before it was unpredictable, now it's (much more) predictable

like, before you'd have to set your addon timer to 20 seconds if you wanted 100% consistency. we still used 18 as the value in default settings (and most people ran it like this i believe), but consistency wasn't guaranteed.

its a buff if you compare them by the 100% consistent setting, which is also a fair comparison
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 09:49 PM

you can't compare them like that

before it was unpredictable, now it's (much more) predictable

like, before you'd have to set your addon timer to 20 seconds if you wanted 100% consistency. we still used 18 as the value in default settings (and most people ran it like this i believe), but consistency wasn't guaranteed.

its a buff if you compare them by the 100% consistent setting, which is also a fair comparison

Yeah it being much more reliable is very nice.
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