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#1 Mostvp71

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 09:20 AM

Hi guys currently leveling a warlock for fun, what do you think of the mastery change to demo?
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#2 loopyloops

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 09:38 AM

The crit change?
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 09:47 AM

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Destruction
Devastation now causes the Warlock to gain 15% (up from 5%) more of the Critical Strike stat from all sources.
Demonology
Mastery: Master Demonologist’s effects have been increased by 33%.
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 09:51 AM

It affects PvE by far more than it affects PvP - nevertheless a more than solid damage buff.
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 10:15 AM

TBH, a well needed demo buff, In PVP that is, in PVE tho demos can wreck pritty darn good if played correctly. And who cares about PVE :P? Noone! :)
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 11:19 AM

Woopse I always read demo as destro I'm probably retarded
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 12:39 PM

I think the original values were 6% to all damage base and 12% to demon form abilities. If I remember correctly I was at something like 10%/20% even without stacking mastery.

That means with the buff it should be roughly 13%/26% now, right? This would be something like 7-8% buff to our burst, more like 10% if you are stacking mastery.
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 03:12 AM

I think the original values were 6% to all damage base and 12% to demon form abilities. If I remember correctly I was at something like 10%/20% even without stacking mastery.

That means with the buff it should be roughly 13%/26% now, right? This would be something like 7-8% buff to our burst, more like 10% if you are stacking mastery.


Dark Soul's mastery bonus is also affected by the change. Previously you'd get 22.5% / 45% (tooltip still shows these values) but after the change you now get 30% / 60%. Taking a quick look at my gear and where you could get mastery on cloth PvP pieces, 15%/30% tooltip should be fairly easily obtainable in full PvP gear even with 4pc and no mastery trinkets in a PvP zone.

That means pre-hotfix you'd be doing 1 * 1.375 * 1.75 = 2.40625 (240.625%) of base damage while bursting and now you'll be doing 1 * 1.5 * 2 = 3 (300%) of base damage while bursting. That's an increase of 24.68% damage while bursting in meta with dark soul.
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 01:50 PM

TBH, a well needed demo buff, In PVP that is, in PVE tho demos can wreck pritty darn good if played correctly. And who cares about PVE :P? Noone! :)

This is why members shouldn't be allowed to post
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 01:54 PM

This is why members shouldn't be allowed to post



Don't loop all of us in with that idiot. Some of us are halfway intelligent, and some glads lick windows. I won't lump you in as a window licker if you don't lump me in with the emoji demo idiot, deal?
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 03:41 PM

Don't loop all of us in with that idiot. Some of us are halfway intelligent, and some glads lick windows. I won't lump you in as a window licker if you don't lump me in with the emoji demo idiot, deal?

Deal bro, my bad.

Edited by Jinngofagswag, 15 January 2015 - 03:41 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 04:07 PM

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 05:27 PM

Don't loop all of us in with that idiot. Some of us are halfway intelligent, and some glads lick windows. I won't lump you in as a window licker if you don't lump me in with the emoji demo idiot, deal?


lf some windows to lick
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:49 PM

Lol was doin arena with my buddy last night on our alts, he was hit for 97k demonbolt xD
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:51 PM

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u wot m8?
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 03:45 PM

Starting to gear my warlock alt for demo pvp. Any experienced demo player knows what we should stack? Mastery > Haste > Versa? Haste reduces demobolt cost increase too which is really nice.

EDIT: Also thoughts on synergy vs supremacy?
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Posted 20 January 2015 - 01:58 AM

Personal opinion on demo: Absolutely amazing if the other team has no interrupts, no cc, no warlock, and doesn't know how to pillar hump.

The spec does completely garbage damage until you get respectable stacks for your demon bolt to stack up, so somehow through your crap damage, your team is going to have to output enough pressure to open a kill window where you are free casting, on CC DR, and they have someone locked down for you to kill. It's kind of the new arcane mage where you have this potential for ridiculously high damage, but it requires the other team to be shit. Potentially hilarious, but far from ideal, especially while affliction is so strong.
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Posted 20 January 2015 - 08:51 AM

Seems like they did some stealth changes yesterday: Demon Bolt damage down ~40% in PvP, Chaos Wave damage up ~50%. Hurts the burst damage a lot imo.
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