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#161 Ownu

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 03:53 AM

So basically, you're willing to forgo doing meaningful damage, for a few more smaller crits. You arnt going to kill anyone by stacking crit, mainly because your rune regeneration is going to suck eggs.

Keep in mind frost dks get 25% more haste from all sources that grant haste, and as a stand-alone stat has been buffed by 11% recently. I'd rather get out harder hitting non crits, so that when they do crit (pretty much just as often), they're actually scary crits, not little girly man crits.


I just dont understand the thought process here, you are going to have empty globals because you have low stats, with the exception of crit. Even if you do get a few more obliterate crits than haste/vers, you are going to do less damage, and no one is going to die from being hit by 2-3 consecutive oblit crits at most

Edited by Ownu, 17 February 2015 - 03:55 AM.

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#162 dogbarf

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 05:54 AM

I won't even bother counting the other stats...


Perfect. Thank you for your time and patience. You have sold me.
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#163 Relentless

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:33 AM

And iirc a KM obliterate multistrike will also inherit the guaranteed crit.


Really? I didn't think it worked that way...

Edit: tested and confirmed, has this been taken into account when calculating the power of multistrike?

Multistrike crit chance is normally calculated separately to the main strikes crit so this makes it more valuable for us (e.g. if mortal strike crits for a warrior doesn't guarantee the multristrike will crit).
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#164 Flakkar

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 02:15 PM

Edit: tested and confirmed, has this been taken into account when calculating the power of multistrike?


Yes I checked into this. It does add a little bit to MS maybe taking it to around 5% dps increase max per 1000 rating. MA is still more damage, but MS gives more burst so I suggested favoring it.

That said the recommended gear set doesn't change.
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#165 Relentless

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 03:23 PM

Cool, nice work :)
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#166 Parliam3nt

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 07:28 PM

This goes so into so many different levels of troll, I truly commend you OP. I've never seen someone troll this hard in my life and I almost fell for it.

EDIT: If any mods are reading this we should consider banning him - hes gonna end up leading a lot of unsuspecting players astray.
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#167 Jinngo

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 07:33 PM

This goes so into so many different levels of troll, I truly commend you OP. I've never seen someone troll this hard in my life and I almost fell for it.

EDIT: If any mods are reading this we should consider banning him - hes gonna end up leading a lot of unsuspecting players astray.

wait what?
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#168 Forumz

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 07:50 PM

This goes so into so many different levels of troll, I truly commend you OP. I've never seen someone troll this hard in my life and I almost fell for it.

EDIT: If any mods are reading this we should consider banning him - hes gonna end up leading a lot of unsuspecting players astray.

Elaborate why you disagree with his math? All you're doing is saying you think it's wrong (apperantly) without any reasoning. If anything, you're the troll.
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#169 Ownu

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 02:59 AM

not sure what that has to do with anything. its not ideal, but I got my first glad as a night elf DK. Abn trolls all the time with his race choice
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#170 Stratos

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 05:25 AM

I got my first glad as a night elf DK


Non-humans unite!
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#171 Relentless

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 11:35 AM

Non-humans unite!


Still convinced an all draenei TSG team could be new fotm! Isnt the heal 20% of your hp? So your team would have a 60% heal on demand, thats almost old bauble of true blood levels?
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#172 jgw

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 01:50 PM

Quick question... Should I just copy Nyz and Mes on US ladder for DK gear? They agree on nearly all slots for BiS. Looks like versa/haste>>all. Also they don't use the 4 piece bonus. Thanks.
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#173 Flakkar

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Posted 21 March 2015 - 02:57 AM

Quick question... Should I just copy Nyz and Mes on US ladder for DK gear? They agree on nearly all slots for BiS. Looks like versa/haste>>all. Also they don't use the 4 piece bonus. Thanks.


Yeah pretty much. The 4 piece is really bad. The 2 piece seems worth it to me. Now that I have excess CP, I might buy the full Vers set and see if I like it better. Personally I dislike waiting on runes to come back, so I like a bit more haste. Dropping below 30% feels kinda bad, and if you take more Vers you also have to take some Crit, which is the worst stat.
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Posted 22 March 2015 - 02:57 PM

Yeah pretty much. The 4 piece is really bad. The 2 piece seems worth it to me. Now that I have excess CP, I might buy the full Vers set and see if I like it better. Personally I dislike waiting on runes to come back, so I like a bit more haste. Dropping below 30% feels kinda bad, and if you take more Vers you also have to take some Crit, which is the worst stat.


I felt like this but you really notice it when you go back from versa, only takes a small % damage reduction to make a big change. The 10% nerf which got reverted is proof of that.
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Posted 30 June 2015 - 02:34 PM

I don't want to necro a thread...

but I am quite keen to know if OP will be creating a similar guide and explanation to his preferred stats for DW this season? :)

The first one was fecking epic, really helped me out.
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#176 Ownu

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 06:00 PM

I don't want to necro a thread...

but I am quite keen to know if OP will be creating a similar guide and explanation to his preferred stats for DW this season? :)

The first one was fecking epic, really helped me out.


DW frost prioritizes the same stats as unholy, found here http://www.arenajunk...and-stat-facts/
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#177 Gavgaroth

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 07:29 AM

Oh, sweet, thanks mate :)
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#178 Flakkar

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:19 PM

Updated for 6.2! See updates in BLUE.
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#179 Gavgaroth

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:03 AM

Thanks Flakkar :)
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#180 UmrenTV

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 04:53 PM

GJ mate... here is +rep from me too!
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