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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:01 PM

Hello guys ...

first sry for my english i hope u understand what i want to say....

I play destru since i started playing this game (bc) and im really disappointet now... i rly dont want to reroll other shit i would like to stick with destru..

Whats are u base talents / gylphs atm against wich teams?

for example i use shadowfury + cataclysm against meele heavy teams and coils + soullink against non meele teams... if i use coils then cataclysm is totally useless
what u think about charred remains ? how u handle the shitty ember regen atm??
or am i the only destru atm?^^
I should rly know everythink about destru but know im fucking useless.. i played this spec to 2.7k but this season it seams rly pointless to even try it...
what u think about this?

thanks and peace out
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#2 Ngzlife

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:39 PM

Destro is shit, play affliction instead or reroll. It's like you say.. shitty ember regen and no dispel protection either

No idea why you would switch out soullink against melees, it's the best option.
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:59 PM

Destro is shit, play affliction instead or reroll. It's like you say.. shitty ember regen and no dispel protection either

i dont wanna reroll shit

i will try grimorie of supremacy + soullink an go full haste... Wotlk style biatches
eighter coil + charred remains against ranged teams or shadowfury + cata against fucking physical shit
for glyphs unending resolve + conflag + havoc pritty standard shit

if u have a better idea tell me more :)

No idea why you would switch out soullink against melees, it's the best option.


because i love having my bargain if i face shit like recklessness, rapid fire n shit .. (i know hutners are not meeles)
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:23 PM

Play fire mage and lie to yourself about rerolling.
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:46 PM

I think gosac is no longer the way to go. If we can get some casts off we do a lot of damage. But that's the problem.
We need indeed some burning embers regen buff other than charred remains, it might tune down our damage a bit, I don't know if it's worth it.
Kil'jaeden's cunning anyone?
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:58 PM

I only played destro last season as well, as much as i tried playing it this season, it does not work.

Ember regen is awful and even is you do get a CB off it doesnt hit any harder than a starsurge, which is an instant cast.

If you want to play competitive you have to reroll to a different spec or class, as annoying as that is. RIP Destruction..
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 04:41 AM

I'm thinking of giving it a try.

Perhaps glyphed and talented for survivability.

Soul Link vs Sact Pact
Sact Pact gives a surprising amount of HP but low health on Succy/Felhunter might reduce it, perhaps a good Demo option.

Haven't tried talenting and glyphing for Ember Tap
5% per Ember
Talented alone
7.5% per .5 Embers
Both
12.5% per .5 Embers
Dont quote me on that i'm just using pen n paper.


If you spec for Charred Embers that might be a good oh shit defence (coupled with healthstone and any other active talents)

I'll see how it goes. If it blows i'll level that mage.
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 04:46 AM

Oh, I also havent tried Dark Bargain. What's that like? (to the original poster)
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:27 AM

destru has definitely some problems
I still like GoSac together with the sacrifice shield. Gives me really a big shield like 280k, huge.

My real issue are the 100 talents.
Cataclysm: impossible to get it off, if you get it off, all people are out of range
Doomguard: the dmg sucks, it dies very quickly and the low hp makes sacrifice also useless (80k shield) - we don´t even have a way to heal pets
Charred Remains: while charred remains makes me almost immortal due to my selfhealing, it also let my dmg drop. Meaning i use most of my embers for heal, so I have not a single dmging ability

the most i get off currently are 50k crits with darksoul + trinket, dunno what i am doing wrong.
affli kinda sucks in bgs and destro is dead as well.
Affli works in arena maybe, but in bgs it is just not fun
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 11:20 AM

Have you tried Demo?


destru has definitely some problems
I still like GoSac together with the sacrifice shield. Gives me really a big shield like 280k, huge.

My real issue are the 100 talents.
Cataclysm: impossible to get it off, if you get it off, all people are out of range
Doomguard: the dmg sucks, it dies very quickly and the low hp makes sacrifice also useless (80k shield) - we don´t even have a way to heal pets
Charred Remains: while charred remains makes me almost immortal due to my selfhealing, it also let my dmg drop. Meaning i use most of my embers for heal, so I have not a single dmging ability

the most i get off currently are 50k crits with darksoul + trinket, dunno what i am doing wrong.
affli kinda sucks in bgs and destro is dead as well.
Affli works in arena maybe, but in bgs it is just not fun



I love using the sac. You could pre pop it in an arena. Is it dispellable?

Have you tried Sacrifice to increase output? If you're having trouble try death coil over sfury. It will be a lot more viable since most classes have stuns. (By that I'm meaning your team mates stuns) Your death coil will work well in unison.
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Posted 11 December 2014 - 03:51 AM

Destro is dead mon, it became a pve spec
The reasons are: lack of cc, hard-cast spells and zero mobilty
Our new talents feel underpower compared to the other ones
Charred Remains is for pve, Cataclysm its very hard to exacute and has a long cd, doomguard its kinda cool, root and silence may save you
The retarded mobility for every single melee class hurts a lot (even Boomys and frost mages feel the pain), a friend told me its like TBC, but its not at least in TBC we have great cc and the dmg was awesome

im gonna reroll to a rogue, warlocks are not fun anymore
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#12 phenorette

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 12:36 PM

Our problems don't even start with things like ember regeneration etc. - 100% avoidable damage is just ... meh ...

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 04:02 AM

  • [Still in testing.] Chaos Bolt now deals 33% more damage in PvP combat.
http://blue.mmo-cham...es-december-11/

Shame we still can't get a cast off :D

Edited by Rbinary, 12 December 2014 - 04:04 AM.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 04:36 AM

Destro is shit, play affliction instead or reroll. It's like you say.. shitty ember regen and no dispel protection either

No idea why you would switch out soullink against melees, it's the best option.


This is not true. I've been playing Destro for a long time and yeah it is kinda fucked but its still goooooood..it took me like a few days of active playing in bgs and arenas to adapt and im happy now.. ive tested the lvl100 talents and all i can say for destro go cata..

These are my talents:
Dark Regen t1
shadowfury t2
dark baragin t3
unbound will t4
supremacy or sacrifice it depends on the situation t5
Kil'jaeden's Cunning t6
cataclysm t7

Glyphs:
havoc
conflag
healthstone
nightmares
gtwy att
soulwell

hope this will help

and trust me stay destro cause affliction is shit in wod. too expensive to play
demo is good in this expack too

STAY AWAY FROM AFFLI
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 04:47 AM

destru has definitely some problems
I still like GoSac together with the sacrifice shield. Gives me really a big shield like 280k, huge.

My real issue are the 100 talents.
Cataclysm: impossible to get it off, if you get it off, all people are out of range
Doomguard: the dmg sucks, it dies very quickly and the low hp makes sacrifice also useless (80k shield) - we don´t even have a way to heal pets
Charred Remains: while charred remains makes me almost immortal due to my selfhealing, it also let my dmg drop. Meaning i use most of my embers for heal, so I have not a single dmging ability

the most i get off currently are 50k crits with darksoul + trinket, dunno what i am doing wrong.
affli kinda sucks in bgs and destro is dead as well.
Affli works in arena maybe, but in bgs it is just not fun


Dont get me wrong but maybe you should ask urself if ure doing something wrong cuse in bgs im doing like average of 8-10 killing blows with full620 gear and 2 pride pieces..try diff talents test them out and go with ones that u fit the best..ive tried em all and finally have my lucky combo

dark regen
shadowfury
dark baragin
unbound will
GoSup or GoSac (i use both of them it depend on diff situations)
K'J C
Cata

looks good to me
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 05:25 AM

and trust me stay destro cause affliction is shit in wod. too expensive to play
demo is good in this expack too

STAY AWAY FROM AFFLI


lol what?

affliction is really good
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 07:51 AM

  • [Still in testing.] Chaos Bolt now deals 33% more damage in PvP combat.


Shame we still can't get a cast off :D


I think this could help - paired with Glyph of Unending Resolve (CD reduction). Nevertheless this doesn't solve the mobility and avoidance issues - but at least the mobility is an issue that every warlock spec is facing atm...
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:03 AM

Could destro mls or lsd be viable now?

Edited by flerbu, 15 December 2014 - 08:14 AM.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:22 AM

Could destro mls or lsd be viable now?


As much as id want it to be, it isnt. Destro with any comp is not a viable option. The spec just does too little damage.

On top of the damage being very weak, we also have weak ember regeneration along with the loss of Fel Flame. Might just be my opinion but i felt like Fel Flame was a very key ability for destruction, it helped out an unbelievable amount to finish off the rest of an ember, it was also a good totem eater and spell reflect eater. Id prefer not use a conflag to eat either of those.

Edited by Freshlemons7474, 15 December 2014 - 08:27 AM.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:41 PM

so i did a few testing with:
charred remains, searing flames, ember tab glyph and its pritty amazing.
for 3s i remove the ember tab glyph for havoc but the ember genereation with charred remains is rly good.

With the CB buff its finally worth it to specc charred remains... the only problem is obviously that cb is ur only dmg source...
but till now it works fine and ill give it a try for a few weeks


if u go for K'J C do u use dark soul glyph?

btw hy pheno :)
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