Jump to content

Photo

DW or 2H

dw 2h frost dk

  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 Máven1296679049

Máven1296679049
  • Members
  • Orcclass_name
  • EU-Stormscale
  • Cyclone / Wirbelsturm
  • Posts: 30
  • Talents: Elemental
  • RBG: 384

Posted 24 November 2014 - 04:23 PM

Just wondering something, is 2H the superior way to go? I'm new to DK and from trying it out, it doesn't seem to be that big of a difference between the two.

So is 2H way better than DW, and if so why?

thx in advance!
  • 0

#2 Aquavolt

Aquavolt
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • US-Kil'jaeden
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 7
  • Talents: Blood 0/2/0/0/0/0/0

Posted 24 November 2014 - 06:48 PM

2H for arenas

DW for RBG's
  • 0

#3 Rydar

Rydar
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Silvermoon
  • Cyclone / Wirbelsturm
  • Posts: 317
  • Talents: Shadow 1/1/0/1/2/2/.

Posted 24 November 2014 - 07:29 PM

Both are really good. With the frost 4 set you are more than capable of playing Dual Wield in arena, especially with breath of sindragosa being affected by mastery. Both setups are good, depends on preferance
  • 0
I want Nicholaes92 dead

#4 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 08 March 2015 - 03:39 PM

What would be the best in 2s playing with a healer ?

2H or DW ?
  • 0

#5 commandchild

commandchild
  • Members
  • Humanclass_name
  • US-Darkspear
  • Cyclone
  • Posts: 10
  • Talents: Unholy 2/2/0/2/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1646
  • RBG: 1623

Posted 09 March 2015 - 03:12 AM

What would be the best in 2s playing with a healer ?

2H or DW ?


Probably 2H. If you are the only source of damage on your team the burst from 2H is critical to put someone in the ground, especially if theyre running a healer as well. DW will have a harder time killing someone in the duration that the enemy healer is in CC.
  • 0

#6 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 10 March 2015 - 12:48 AM

But what about my healer survivability ?

I also though DK had poor utility, esp 2H because your dmg is so dependent on runes. DW is dependent on RP to deal dmg so i could use more runes to peel for my heal. What do you think about it ?
  • 0

#7 Ownu

Ownu
  • Locationcal

Posted 10 March 2015 - 04:27 AM

But what about my healer survivability ?

I also though DK had poor utility, esp 2H because your dmg is so dependent on runes. DW is dependent on RP to deal dmg so i could use more runes to peel for my heal. What do you think about it ?



well...you get runic power from your runes.
  • 0

#8 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 10 March 2015 - 10:32 AM

But if they go for my healer, i will need to use every single rune to peel for him :/
  • 0

#9 cubas

cubas
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 912
  • Talents: Combat 1/2/2/2/1/1/1
  • 2v2: 1616
  • 3v3: 2116
  • LocationPrague

Posted 10 March 2015 - 11:08 AM

But if they go for my healer, i will need to use every single rune to peel for him :/


Quite often the best peel is a lot of damage :)
  • 1
Kul Tiras-EU / Outland-EU

#10 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 11 March 2015 - 12:26 AM

Quite often the best peel is a lot of damage :)


Never played something agressive like DK so i'm not much into this kind of consideration ^^
  • 0

#11 Raijke

Raijke
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Страж Смерти
  • Шквал
  • Posts: 2
  • Talents: Unholy 1/0/2/0/1/2/2
  • 2v2: 1838

Posted 11 March 2015 - 09:13 AM

Never played something agressive like DK so i'm not much into this kind of consideration ^^

Why CC people if you can just dps them down? DK best class.
  • 0

#12 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 11 March 2015 - 11:58 AM

Why CC people if you can just dps them down? DK best class.


Let's try an answer. Because it would be less boring ? :D

BTW http://eu.battle.net.../Moserah/simple it seems that some people are really using DW
  • 0

#13 Satarrus

Satarrus
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Talnivarr
  • Reckoning / Abrechnung
  • Posts: 201
  • Talents: Frost 1/0/2/0/0/2/2
  • 2v2: 2319
  • 3v3: 2704
  • 5v5: 960
  • RBG: 1942

Posted 11 March 2015 - 12:22 PM

Unless I'm missing something, DW still sucks because once ppl realise they can just train u all day and force u to sit in blood presence, your dmg kinda goes to the dumpster with how dependent DW is on frost strike.
  • 0
Posted Image Posted Image

#14 Hyugarr

Hyugarr
  • Members
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Hyjal
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Shadow 0/1/0/1/0/0/2
  • 2v2: 1517
  • 3v3: 1513

Posted 11 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

Unless I'm missing something, DW still sucks because once ppl realise they can just train u all day and force u to sit in blood presence, your dmg kinda goes to the dumpster with how dependent DW is on frost strike.


That's a thing that is always told, i never play the class, so i'm asking naively about ever build. Is there any 2s setup that is favourable for DW ?

This guy reached 2k in 2s. Still investigating how he did ^^
  • 0

#15 Forumz

Forumz
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Argent Dawn
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 3,141
  • Talents: Shadow 2/1/1/1/./.
  • 2v2: 2728
  • 3v3: 2279
  • 5v5: 96
  • RBG: 768

Posted 11 March 2015 - 07:54 PM

That's a thing that is always told, i never play the class, so i'm asking naively about ever build. Is there any 2s setup that is favourable for DW ?

This guy reached 2k in 2s. Still investigating how he did ^^

You say that as if 2k in 2s is something admirable? Dual Wield is so far behind 2H and even Unholy, it's just not worth it unless you play the game for fun and don't care about losing because of your shitty spec.
  • 1
Posted Image

#16 commandchild

commandchild
  • Members
  • Humanclass_name
  • US-Darkspear
  • Cyclone
  • Posts: 10
  • Talents: Unholy 2/2/0/2/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1646
  • RBG: 1623

Posted 11 March 2015 - 11:04 PM

DW is basically a super shitty version of UH. Several people have explained why. You will do no burst damage and your ranged/sustained damage and peels are worse than Unholy. You can try to make it work but it's probably only going to happen with a metric fuckton of pvp experience, class knowledge, and mechanical skill.
  • 0

#17 Ownu

Ownu
  • Locationcal

Posted 12 March 2015 - 02:22 AM

Hipster spec. It doesnt really play or feel any different. You're basically doing the same thing you do as 2H frost, except you're using your KM procs on Frost Strike instead of Obliterate. That and you're gearing exactly like an Unholy Dk. The spec's only place is in RBGs, only because as Unholy, your pet dies a metric fuckton in RBGs.

Edited by Ownu, 12 March 2015 - 02:22 AM.

  • 0

#18 Sevre

Sevre
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Ravencrest
  • Cyclone / Wirbelsturm
  • Posts: 107
  • Talents: Frost 2/0/2/2/1/2
  • 2v2: 2257
  • 3v3: 2315
  • 5v5: 2314
  • RBG: 2500

Posted 19 March 2015 - 08:35 PM

This topic got me interested to see if it was a thing again. I played dw frost in rbgs last season past 2.3 to a little success, getting huge howling blast crits of 100k+ but it was hard because as frost you were a big target last season since the enemy team knew you were squishy and you got swapped on alot / generally unpleasant to play rbgs as a dk and be trained into the ground. So i stopped and when back to UH. However i one day i saw Cryo playing DW as UH and that set me off and made me play DW uh for pretty much the rest of the season as you did retarded dmg on dots cos of cinderglacier and huge soul reapers too (Maybe 220-230k sometimes)

However a big thing that made any dw spec work was cinderglacier. and now its gone.

I have tried duel wield frost and howling blast doesent do enough dmg to make the lost of dmg from your obliterates feel worth it. infact your frost strike does more dmg than oblit atm.

Also breaks all cc in 3s. Unless you play a fotm dk comp then nvm.
  • 0
www.Twitch.tv/RamsayLohan
Posted Image

#19 Creamo

Creamo
  • Junkies
  • Taurenclass_name
  • US-Emerald Dream
  • Shadowburn
  • Posts: 1,007
  • Talents:

Posted 19 March 2015 - 09:38 PM

This topic got me interested to see if it was a thing again. I played dw frost in rbgs last season past 2.3 to a little success, getting huge howling blast crits of 100k+ but it was hard because as frost you were a big target last season since the enemy team knew you were squishy and you got swapped on alot / generally unpleasant to play rbgs as a dk and be trained into the ground. So i stopped and when back to UH. However i one day i saw Cryo playing DW as UH and that set me off and made me play DW uh for pretty much the rest of the season as you did retarded dmg on dots cos of cinderglacier and huge soul reapers too (Maybe 220-230k sometimes)

However a big thing that made any dw spec work was cinderglacier. and now its gone.

I have tried duel wield frost and howling blast doesent do enough dmg to make the lost of dmg from your obliterates feel worth it. infact your frost strike does more dmg than oblit atm.

Also breaks all cc in 3s. Unless you play a fotm dk comp then nvm.

dw uh hey
  • 0

I don't even fotm


#20 Forumz

Forumz
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Argent Dawn
  • Cataclysme / Cataclysm
  • Posts: 3,141
  • Talents: Shadow 2/1/1/1/./.
  • 2v2: 2728
  • 3v3: 2279
  • 5v5: 96
  • RBG: 768

Posted 19 March 2015 - 10:54 PM

dw uh hey

yes even in last season of MoP DW Unholy was actually not horrible in RBGs.

Of course it was pretty bad single target.

Edited by Forumz, 19 March 2015 - 10:55 PM.

  • 0
Posted Image





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: dw, 2h, frost, dk

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

<