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#1 ProdeGaming

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Posted Yesterday, 01:07 PM

All VoDs/Screenshots are about outhealing the enemy in 3v1/2v1 Arena.

Every Arena VoD/Screenshot is ended by either 20 min time limit(at 91% Dampening) or Win. Most cases there is little to no attempt made to kill the enemy or win, the intent is outhealing/surviving their dmg.

Before you start complaining about Warlock healing(which is, too, fair to do so), take into consideration that the healing I'm producing is laughable compared to a 3v3 team's overall healing capabilities and is easily achieved/exceeded by a 3v3 team which means that healing in general is overpowered.
Also note that none of the VoDs/Screenshots contain bugged resilience, yet it could easily be added/required in the game due to dmg already being too high. Yes, dmg and healing can both be overpowered at the same time.(can't emphasize enough that this is not a Warlock issue http://www.arenajunk...s/#entry4261858 , it is a healing issue http://www.arenajunk...luding-healers/)

Keep those in mind when looking at the VoDs/Screenshots.
(All scoreboards - http://i.imgur.com/9Uijv8z.jpg)


3v1

Affliction Warlock   
UH DK
(Gladiator)
Rshaman(Gladiator)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/vSs37AB.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530814

Prot Warr(Rival)
UH DK(Rival)
Hpaladin(Duelist)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/ov7kBMR.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530835

Moonkin(Rival)
BM Hunter(Rival)
Disc(2000)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/mwo1dQH.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530998

Rogue(Challenger)
Frost Mage(Challenger)
Hpaladin(Challenger)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/g5CxOMO.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530902


2v1

Moonkin(Challenger)
MM Hunter(Duelist)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/RjuaIFU.png

Feral(Rival)
Ret(2200)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/aJMbj75.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5539280


WW Monk
SP
(Rival)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/kCb3F2z.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5539244

Feral
Surv Hunter
(Challenger)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/BjcJsOG.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530519

Combat Rogue(Prideful Gladiator)
Rshaman(Furious/Prideful Gladiator)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/xeBzqxF.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5539266

Ret(2700/Duelist)
Disc(Rival)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/Db0NVp7.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5539290

Feral(Rival)
Disc(2700/Duelist)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/bOEg4r2.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5542638

Affliction Warlock(2000)
Rshaman(Gladiator)
Scoreboard - http://i.imgur.com/U7ZrLyr.png  VoD - http://www.twitch.tv...rname/c/5530692

Edited by ProdeGaming, Yesterday, 06:31 PM.


#2 Forumz

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Posted Yesterday, 01:15 PM

I like how you highlight when you ''win'', when it's just the enemy team not being stupid and leaving because they don't want to wait 20 minutes just to get a victory in a skirmish.

And yeah it's retarded but it's blizzard and I'll be amazed if they end up changing it before the second season.

Edited by Forumz, Yesterday, 01:15 PM.

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#3 ProdeGaming

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Posted Yesterday, 01:28 PM

View PostForumz, on 22 November 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

I like how you highlight when you ''win'', when it's just the enemy team not being stupid and leaving because they don't want to wait 20 minutes just to get a victory in a skirmish.
I assumed that would be self explanatory for the screenshots do show my 0 kills, but thanks for pointing out.

I do not mean to be offensive, but the only purpose of 'Win' highlights are to make you be aware that the arena ended by them unable to kill me. They can choose to leave and it's understandable, in fact sometimes I'm happy about it, esp when it's clear after 2min of the match that there is close to no chance I ever going to die.

Edited by ProdeGaming, Yesterday, 01:43 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 05:13 PM

HAHA,seriously what a fucking joke.

always remember that you're still garbage


#5 Esiwdeer

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Posted Yesterday, 08:28 PM

why didn't you just post the rating of the teams you were fighting?

oh, wai-

MOM GET IN HERE

I JUST MADE A FURIOUS GLADIATOR LEAVE BECAUSE I REFUSED TO FIGHT HIM

I'M GONNA TWEET HOLINKA AFTER THIS LMAO

#6 ProdeGaming

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Posted Yesterday, 08:31 PM

View PostEsiwdeer, on 22 November 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

why didn't you just post the rating of the teams you were fighting?

oh, wai-

MOM GET IN HERE

I JUST MADE A FURIOUS GLADIATOR LEAVE BECAUSE I REFUSED TO FIGHT HIM

I'M GONNA TWEET HOLINKA AFTER THIS LMAO
what r you on about

#7 Esiwdeer

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Posted Yesterday, 08:45 PM

the reason there's MMR is so you fight worthy opponents

you're playing skirmishes and carefully researching your opponents to provide more confirmation to your original bias. i'm sure there's tons of evidence you chose not to provide us with.

it's not scientific and you're basically using your conjecture to try to mold the game, which i think is stupid.

balance shouldnt be attempted by people who obviously can't see the big picture

that's what i'm on about

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Posted Yesterday, 08:45 PM

What are you trying to accomplish?  You look like a huge bag of dicks and scrots to me.  It's not like you're facing real teams - you're facing randoms grouped together that are probably under geared, not in skype, and not coordinating anything.   Is that real fun?

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Posted Yesterday, 09:03 PM

View PostFizion, on 22 November 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to accomplish?  You look like a huge bag of dicks and scrots to me.  It's not like you're facing real teams - you're facing randoms grouped together that are probably under geared, not in skype, and not coordinating anything.   Is that real fun?
He's outhealing people until the game forcibly ends. As a Warlock.

How are you not seeing the problem?

Same goes for Reed.

Edited by Forumz, Yesterday, 09:05 PM.

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Posted Yesterday, 09:04 PM

View PostEsiwdeer, on 22 November 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

the reason there's MMR is so you fight worthy opponents

you're playing skirmishes and carefully researching your opponents to provide more confirmation to your original bias. i'm sure there's tons of evidence you chose not to provide us with.

it's not scientific and you're basically using your conjecture to try to mold the game, which i think is stupid.

balance shouldnt be attempted by people who obviously can't see the big picture

that's what i'm on about
I just gonna assume the individual on your avatar made the reply, so it's understandable.

Edited by ProdeGaming, Yesterday, 09:04 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:09 PM

View PostForumz, on 22 November 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:

He's outhealing people until the game forcibly ends. As a Warlock.

How are you not seeing the problem?

Same goes for Reed.
while not trying to win the game

i can spec self healing on my hunter and run around for 20 minutes not trying to win too

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Posted Yesterday, 09:17 PM

View PostEsiwdeer, on 22 November 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

while not trying to win the game

i can spec self healing on my hunter and run around for 20 minutes not trying to win too
And that would be retarded as well. Why does a class even need that much selfhealing? It's completely pointless and only makes things feel extremely dumb.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:20 PM

Will we see this in rated arenas? Probably not.

Does that justify the existance? No.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:27 PM

damage got buffed by 20%, we're not even in epics and people die in 2-3 minutes on live

View PostDizzeeyo, on 27 October 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:


i have some deep seated fundamental belief that melee cleave are duelist rat scum (to use a jaime phrase) and mop wizardcleave are the pinnacle of skill in wow

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Posted Yesterday, 09:29 PM

View PostEsiwdeer, on 22 November 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

while not trying to win the game

i can spec self healing on my hunter and run around for 20 minutes not trying to win too
i bet u wouldnt stay alive for 3mins against any double dps unless they are retarded
lock tanking 2 dpses  with 90% dampening is for sure acceptable and well designed -.-

Edited by Gimotqt, Yesterday, 09:36 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:31 PM

droon keep it up dude, self healing in this game is broken for a few dps classes and obviously you shouldnt be able to survive as a warlock hunter or any spec just by running away and self healing until the game times out

the reason hes showing the rating and titles of other players is to show that they are at least able to manage a dps rotation and hes not surviving against players who just cant control their characters properly

Edited by Seu, Yesterday, 09:32 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:46 PM

this level of discussion doesn't belong on aj, if you want to post the non-science equivalent of "amumu must be picked or banned at all times" you should have to do that on the general forums

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Posted Yesterday, 11:14 PM

I'm sure there's more than just locks that you can fuck around and play not to win a skirm against randoms while being a huge dickbag.  I rerolled mage so I'm not defending locks one single bit (since MOP poisoned me to the class).  I'm sure they are going to suck, like they do every 1st season of the xpac (minus the broke demo of MOP).

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Posted Today, 12:03 AM

This post is basically pointless and doesn't prove anything.

You're using Charred Remains (makes conflag and incinerate deal no damage but allows you to gain tons of embers), Ember Tap glyph (Which makes ember tap heal for more but over a duration of time), using your banes in order to gain even more embers and your opponents don't seem to understand they need to CC you to win. You basically attempted to find a way of healing as much as possible with no consideration of dealing damage and qued skirmish until you found players without the mental capacity to kill you.

Those talents and glyphs won't be used by anyone other than a jackass trying to accomplish what you're doing. Using that as a justification as to why damage/healing ratios are out of place is just flat out misleading.





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