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#1 Snodz

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:54 PM

This is a repost from the wow forums, so yea, ignore some of it.. but regardless here it is:

'So i just farmed full 675 Pvp gear (best in slot for now) as i was hoping gear was the issue not class..... i was wrong.

Ele is not in a playable state, the class honestly feels like its in alpha / beta.

The mastery is horribly designed, random procs for 6 seconds after hitting a target with one of your abilities? Who on earth thought that would be a good idea? Its dull, boring and worst of all; Rng.

But that isn't the problem, the problem is the lack of damage. Multistrike is our best stat, but in pvp multi strike is capped at hitting once (causing lightning shield to take alot longer to stack up), not how it does in pve where it has a chance to hit twice, so our main stat is nerfed. Another thing that ruins our damage is the crit change to pvp, Abilities in pvp crit for 150% not 250% like they used to (Shamanism during mop caused us to crit for 250% damage, instead of 200%), so this is a 100% less crit damage, which nerfs our iconic damage source ; lava burst...

I don't understand how blizzard couldn't see these problems on beta, however its too late now, all we can do is pray they change something...

Your reasoning for why ele shamans have no way to get mana back was, 'ele shamans damage abilities cost near to no mana', what about purging? healing? or even getting any mana back!? Once we oom, we lose.... we have no mechanic to get mana back which is ridiculous.

My suggestions:

Make lightning shield stack up from being hit like it used to back in cata and early mop.

Buff lava burst damage by making it crit for 250% or just buffing the baseline damage

Increase the range on wind shear to 30 yards (it got nerfed from 30-25 in wod)

Cause rolling thunder to grand 2% mana like it used to in cata and mop, at least giving us some way to get mana back.

That's some ideas off of the top of my head, there are other issues like ele blast and our mastery but those aren't quite as urgent but still need addressing.

Tell me what you think!'

Edited by Snodz, 16 November 2014 - 02:03 PM.

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#2 jaimee

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:56 PM

100% agree with everything.

Ele doesn't even feel fun, it's more of a dot spec without control over dots.
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 01:44 PM

Ele is the actual worst atm, so damn borin'!!!
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:25 PM

Finally.

Karma.

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#5 Rexyyoxxx

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 05:09 PM

^
posts like this, how is it karma at all?

not sure you know the definition, a very bone idle post.

And I agree elemental is at a low at the moment, but is that not always the case in the first 2 seasons for all casters?
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#6 jaimee

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

^
posts like this, how is it karma at all?

not sure you know the definition, a very bone idle post.

And I agree elemental is at a low at the moment, but is that not always the case in the first 2 seasons for all casters?


casters are normally weak because of lack of gear / stats on gear / scaling and occasionally overscaled melee. This is not the case with ele right now, they are pretty much fundamentally broken. The mechanics are completely fucked.
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#7 Vess

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:32 PM

This will filter out the fotm elemental shamans from the real ones who will make it work anyways, not the first time boys. Every spec has bad seasons, you can make it work.

Edited by Vess, 16 November 2014 - 06:37 PM.

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#8 Zzx

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:34 PM

Good thread, Hope ele gets some changes asap (:

My two favorite ele's agreeing for the first time c:
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:49 PM

Finally.

Karma.

:duckers:

ele has actually been historically weak
worst offensive caster in cata
very bad first 2 seasons of wrath aside from 4 piece pve
worst offensive caster in TBC


It tends to be especially bad during the start of xpacs. Ele is that one spec with an identity crisis. Blizzard never really knows what it wants to do with it, so they end up just giving ele a lot of damage to compensate for other weaknesses.
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:51 PM

This will filter out the fotm elemental shamans from the real ones who will make it work anyways, not the first time boys. Every spec has bad seasons, you can make it work.

thanks vess

edit: lvl 96 atm, thinking of just saying fuck it and level my sp instead??
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:55 PM

Your math is a bit wrong. Imagine you hit for 1000, you woulda crit 2500 in MoP, now you crit for 1500. 1500/2500*100=60%. So your dmg is 40% lower than it was in MoP and your crit dmg is 77% lower than it was in MoP. Not 100% lower lmao... Correct me if im wrong. ;P

Other than that i dont give a single fk about ele shamans whatsoever.

Edited by Ravv, 16 November 2014 - 07:03 PM.

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:57 PM

thanks vess

edit: lvl 96 atm, thinking of just saying fuck it and level my sp instead??


yeah level sp; this isnt even remotely playable, worse than ret last season.
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:31 PM

thanks vess

edit: lvl 96 atm, thinking of just saying fuck it and level my sp instead??


You've seen worse times mejt, show us who's a real elemental shaman.
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:34 PM

Don't you worry guys, the time to shine as LSx will come again and you can obtain your free glads once more
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:38 PM

Don't you worry guys, the time to shine as LSx will come again and you can obtain your free glads once more


you speak so much shite for someone who has never gotten higher than duelist in 6 years of actively trying.
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:46 PM

you speak so much shite for someone who has never gotten higher than duelist in 6 years of actively trying.


He's a monk mejt how can he have tried for 6 years, new class
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:55 PM

Yep however ele shamans are bad, some ppl will hit r1 rating and make it work :D
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:34 PM

agreeing with OP, ele feeling really weak @ 100
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:54 PM

Good thread, Hope ele gets some changes asap (:

My two favorite ele's agreeing for the first time c:


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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:58 PM

How is your throat not wrecked from all the constant dick sucking... Incredible.


Vladamir told me you deepthroated him and even cupped balls for your wintrade. Shame he didn't quite, get you there. You sure got him there c;
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