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#1 pizzaboii

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 08:57 PM

Hello i'm Staystrong and this is my first post on AJ.
I wanted to take a little bit of time this afternoon to speak on the subject of players who dodge other teams in rated battle grounds. As a player who had to deal with sitting 8+ min queues and fighting 1700 teams 80% of my rated battleground career, this topic is near and dear to my heart.

Dodging is when a team of lesser quality, waits until the team of higher quality gets into a game to queue. This can be done many ways, watching the stream of the team, having one of the players on real ID, and even making a character on the server of the leader and /who and refreshing until they get into a game.

Listen, i get it...it's not fun losing in ANY bracket. The thing is, rbg is already a less competitive scene than arena, and full of scummy things like ddosing and fly hacking. This tarnishes our reputation as players and causes arena players to look down on us. The fact of the matter is, rated battlegrounds takes as much communication and coordination as arena. To micromanage 9 other players and work to a common goal of an objective, depending on the map, requires an immense amount of synergy and overall game knowledge. People don't realize how much skill top level rbg players actually have, they assume because they don't arena much that they are lesser players when in fact, some rank one arena players try and rbg and get cropped by "mediocre players".

I stray from the point, this expansion gives all of the teams that were very good, but never had the confidence to queue into the major names in rbg like Team Abn, or Team Bailamos. These other teams like Naz, or even the Eu swine country teams, we would see them once or twice but there isn't a constant effort to improve themselves by queuing into the best of the best. The only way to get better is to challenge yourself, even if it is at the cost of some Current rating. I mean at the end of the day what is current rating if you dodged for 3-4 hours a day to earn it? Farming 2k teams for 3 points a win, knowing deep down in your heart that, yeah, you're a "High Warlord" but at what cost?

The point of this rant is not to discourage or put down anybody in particular, but to empower them and give them confidence to not only make a solid team next season, but to actually play. I look forward to seeing everyone next season, good luck!


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Edited by pizzaboii, 01 November 2014 - 09:05 PM.

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#2 HeyimJack

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:01 PM

Most people dodge to not get Lag7'd against of DDOS'd

On EU at least
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:05 PM

or even the Eu swine country teams, we would see them once or twice


I hope you realized we,the EU team, stopped queuing because the majority of us could not be bothered queuing once the 'Friendly competition' turned into some sort of 'We can't win so we will exploit to win' mentality..
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:19 PM

Most of the reasons I've heard for dodging in RBGs is because teams will often have 100-200 mmr less than they should, discouraging players from queuing due to the excess point loss that they may receive.

RBGs still best bracket though

Edited by Verelea, 01 November 2014 - 09:19 PM.

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#5 Winkay

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:19 PM

Shut up m8
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:28 PM

The fact of the matter is, rated battlegrounds takes as much communication and coordination as arena.


LOL
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:34 PM

LOL

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m8 do u even know what ur talking about

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:40 PM

3,2k season 12 mate, when i also actually played RBG's. But its become the most disgusting part of pvp the last few seasons so why even queue? Occasionally its fun but you cant compare 3v3 with RBGs mate.
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:40 PM

well, when your "major" teams are mostly comprised of cheaters... I can understand people not wanting to queue that mess of a bracket.

the only time RBGs were ever real was in s9 now they are just played by delusional shit stains that resort to anything to win.


wont be surprised in WoD when you are LFG for rbgs they demand you have a booter since blizzard did a super job at banning the ddosers.

Edited by Structural, 01 November 2014 - 09:43 PM.

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#10 pizzaboii

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 10:04 PM

3,2k season 12 mate..season 12. nuffsaid
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 10:05 PM

the only time RBGs were ever real


whenever someone starts a sentence like this it automatically discredits anything else they say
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Posted 01 November 2014 - 10:26 PM

whenever someone starts a sentence like this it automatically discredits anything else they say


discredited for saying the truth.

you probably weren't even around back then so you probably don't actually know.

Edited by Structural, 01 November 2014 - 10:57 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:45 AM

and you were probably just as big of a faggot


just telling you the truth.... you don't have to throw out insults. most people will tell you rbgs actually had merit back then and were very fun and required a lot of coordination.
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:47 AM

most people will tell you rbgs actually had merit back then and were very fun and required a lot of coordination.

this was true for almost all of cata :)

then mop happened :(
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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


#15 jaimee

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 01:47 AM

the very idea that RBGs are comparable to 3s is a joke
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 03:08 AM

RBG's are a lost cause
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Posted 02 November 2014 - 03:24 AM

If you just removed the mentality that RBGs are easy for 15 minutes, you'll realize the skill cap for RBG is twice as high than 3v3.

After watching that pathetic excuse for a tournament yesterday you can clearly see there's no hope for 3v3 being a competitive mainstream e-Sport.

Edited by Winkay, 02 November 2014 - 03:25 AM.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 03:30 AM

Stop dodge - start snipe.

Sounds reasonable to me.
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Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

bro you got +rep'd by rapture... 

 

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 03:59 AM

the very idea that RBGs are comparable to 3s is a joke

in cata they were, thats the funny bit

but in cata there was more then one good team per region, teams actually queued into eachother, and teams actively blacklisted ddosers and wintraders

now there are teams that specifically invite those people because that's the most reliable way for them to gain rating and sell boosts - people like winkay were laughed at in cata rbgs, and now his team is one of the highest rated, and use the money they make from selling rbg boosts to buy arena boosts on their own characters lul (hi lurtex, healingstat's best customer :))

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 02 November 2014 - 04:05 AM.

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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:02 AM

If you just removed the mentality that RBGs are easy for 15 minutes, you'll realize the skill cap for RBG is twice as high than 3v3.

After watching that pathetic excuse for a tournament yesterday you can clearly see there's no hope for 3v3 being a competitive mainstream e-Sport.


2.3 or 2250?
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