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6.1: Gforce's Guide to Protection


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#101 ~Invictus

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:55 PM

Stam will come from your gear regardless. If you really want to, you can take Stam trinkets. But to be honest I don't really know if there's any Vers offpieces.
If not, then you'd be left with "just" enchants for Vers customization.
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#102 DNADota

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 05:46 PM

Stam will come from your gear regardless. If you really want to, you can take Stam trinkets. But to be honest I don't really know if there's any Vers offpieces.
If not, then you'd be left with "just" enchants for Vers customization.


Yeah, I'm feeling the difference will be really small, but I'd love to give it a go!
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 06:06 PM

I dont seem to have a problem with surviving if you rotate your cd's correctly, i think crit/bonus armor is gonna be the way to go
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

So which pieces have bonus armor on them anyway?
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

660 cloak and ring

http://www.wowhead.c...ak-of-endurance
http://www.wowhead.c...et-of-endurance

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 05:45 PM

So which pieces have bonus armor on them anyway?



Cloak ring and neck I believe
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:29 PM

Not sure how Crit was forgotten. Crit is also giving you Parry on a Prot Warrior.

Tanky Prot :
Least Damage Taken: Stamina > Str > Bonus Armor > Crit > Mast > Vers > Multi > Haste
The reason crit is higher than vers is that you simply cannot get enough from points of vers to rank it higher.

Bonus Armor on
Neck, Cloak, Rings and Trinkets.

There is a 615 Garrison Mission Trinket right now, that's pretty easy to get. It's Bonus Armor and Proc's Versatility.
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:35 PM

Not sure how Crit was forgotten. Crit is also giving you Parry on a Prot Warrior.

Tanky Prot :
Least Damage Taken: Stamina > Str > Bonus Armor > Crit > Mast > Vers > Multi > Haste
The reason crit is higher than vers is that you simply cannot get enough from points of vers to rank it higher.

Bonus Armor on
Neck, Cloak, Rings and Trinkets.

There is a 615 Garrison Mission Trinket right now, that's pretty easy to get. It's Bonus Armor and Proc's Versatility.


Pretty sure I had crit valued over everything as a secondary stat

I consider bonus armor a primary stat, as it gives the exact thing as STR does except bonus damage reduction ontop of it

Stamina is only better then vers when you have high base resil. In late mop when we had like 75% base resil stamina was stupidly good, just none stacked it because reasons

As for the bonus armor trinket, I wouldn't use it unless you also have the brokenly OP 2.2k STR on use trinket. That on use trinket is equivalent to equipping an entire extra set of gear.

Edited by Speedymart, 28 November 2014 - 09:38 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:14 AM

Not sure how Crit was forgotten. Crit is also giving you Parry on a Prot Warrior.

Tanky Prot :
Least Damage Taken: Stamina > Str > Bonus Armor > Crit > Mast > Vers > Multi > Haste
The reason crit is higher than vers is that you simply cannot get enough from points of vers to rank it higher.

Bonus Armor on
Neck, Cloak, Rings and Trinkets.

There is a 615 Garrison Mission Trinket right now, that's pretty easy to get. It's Bonus Armor and Proc's Versatility.


Lol, read you post, opened up finished mission, got a "Create a trinket" out of a successful one and got that fucking trinket. ;D !!!

Tested it with 0 vers, the proc seems to give you 4.62% dmg reduction and 9.23% dmg and healing increase.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:39 AM

Hey Gforce there's also a trinket that procs like 2k armor. That works just the same right? Even better no?
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:51 AM

Gforce can you link the 2,2k on use str trinket? I can't find it.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 06:14 AM

However, I do believe Multi to be far more valuable than mastery and even crit if you want to be a tank.

Im running Multi gear right now, just finished some tests. So multi-strike procs you a 3sec buff that heals you for 1% hp per sec called Blood Craze. when refreshed the remaining portion is added to the new effect, so basically you're not losing heal power when refreshing it. So I was checking the procs for a 1min period. They varied from 4 to 11 procs per minute with steady procs around 8 per minute. So basically that's 23-24%hp per minute heals. That's heavy.

So my advice is run Multi if you want to play Heavy prot. The parry/block is useless in stun. Also useless vs spells afaik(maybe im wrong here?)

However, Im running vers enchants which give me 3.42% +dmg / 1.71% -dmg. That's 12.65% +dmg / 6.32% -dmg when 1200 vers trinket procs.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:49 PM

However, I do believe Multi to be far more valuable than mastery and even crit if you want to be a tank.

Im running Multi gear right now, just finished some tests. So multi-strike procs you a 3sec buff that heals you for 1% hp per sec called Blood Craze. when refreshed the remaining portion is added to the new effect, so basically you're not losing heal power when refreshing it. So I was checking the procs for a 1min period. They varied from 4 to 11 procs per minute with steady procs around 8 per minute. So basically that's 23-24%hp per minute heals. That's heavy.


The multistrike proc heal only works on auto attacks

Unreliable as fuck

So my advice is run Multi if you want to play Heavy prot. The parry/block is useless in stun. Also useless vs spells afaik(maybe im wrong here?)


Casters don't exist, making it even more important as you'll only play against cleaves. With enraged regen you should never flop over in a stun without having a chance to use something else.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 05:37 PM

@Gforce - Thank you for this thorough guide. I respecced to glad stance today with only 2 pieces of pvp gear and was topping BGs immediately. Started playing some skirmishes and wow all I can say is this is one of the most fun classes i've played in WoW for a long time! Appreciate the guide and snooping on your armory for tips and gearing guides!
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:31 PM

Gforce how about linking those bis trinkets? They can be pve. Just wanna see if they're worth it.
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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:00 AM

Gforce how about linking those bis trinkets? They can be pve. Just wanna see if they're worth it.



I'll do a write up on BiS gear when I get home from work. The 2.2k str trinket is called scabbard of ayakor or something like that.
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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:03 AM

I'll do a write up on BiS gear when I get home from work. The 2.2k str trinket is called scabbard of ayakor or something like that.


Scabbard of Kyanos


Looks like ironhide clefthoof has a chance to drop it in nagrand or something. thats an epic trinket

Edited by Ezyo1000, 30 November 2014 - 12:09 AM.

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:46 AM

Scabbard of Kyanos


Looks like ironhide clefthoof has a chance to drop it in nagrand or something. thats an epic trinket


Holy crap that is insane. Imagine popping it together with the on use from Tablet of Turnbuckle Teamwork. Remember armor counts as str. Holy burst.
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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:50 AM

rofl the scabbard is going for 40k on my server lolol f that I'm just a poor pvper
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Posted 30 November 2014 - 01:50 AM

you miss 1 important thing : the Swifty oneshot macro ofc capslock on.
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