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#101 HeyimJack

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 04:06 AM

Are we still using mastery enchants over the bleed ones post-sinister's calling buff?

Also need to edit your OP as of course no more 8-12 second kidney for combat. More like 6-9 now.

Yes Mastery enchants for sure mastery is the king of all stats
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 11:17 AM

First of all thanks a bunch for the guide, helped me refresh my memory on how to play sub!

Been playing my rogue a lot more recently and was wondering if I could get a definite answer on weapons.

I understand people us Slow OH/fast MH when they use the slow weps for OS combat..

But is Dagger/Dagger much better than Fast MH/Slow OH for sub?

Thanks in advance and great guide!
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

First of all thanks a bunch for the guide, helped me refresh my memory on how to play sub!

Been playing my rogue a lot more recently and was wondering if I could get a definite answer on weapons.

I understand people us Slow OH/fast MH when they use the slow weps for OS combat..

But is Dagger/Dagger much better than Fast MH/Slow OH for sub?

Thanks in advance and great guide!

It's probably slightly better to use double dagger but it's like a 0.2% difference like it's unoticable dagger/dagger and dagger/slowwep are both really similar it doesn't matter much.
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 02:53 PM

It's probably slightly better to use double dagger but it's like a 0.2% difference like it's unoticable dagger/dagger and dagger/slowwep are both really similar it doesn't matter much.


Thanks for the reply!
Dagger/Slowwep makes the most sense then considering i'll probably play the occasional bit of Combat (and sword OH looks cool ;) )
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 02:57 PM

Thanks for the reply!
Dagger/Slowwep makes the most sense then considering i'll probably play the occasional bit of Combat (and sword OH looks cool ;) )

Yeh it's not a bad idea for when you wanna play combat just switch the weps around and you're good to go.
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 03:46 PM

Yeh it's not a bad idea for when you wanna play combat just switch the weps around and you're good to go.


Its a little off topic for a Sub guide (sorry), but I assume its a similar scenario to combat as far as using Slow MH/ Fast OH (for combat) is a little worse than Slow/Slow?
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Posted 17 January 2015 - 02:32 AM

Its a little off topic for a Sub guide (sorry), but I assume its a similar scenario to combat as far as using Slow MH/ Fast OH (for combat) is a little worse than Slow/Slow?

Not that big an issue but it's still a bigger issue for combat because your OH increases your KillingSpree dmg so you want a slow wep and your MH increases like SinisterStrike dmg and stuff sooo
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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:20 PM

Seems like a really solid guide!
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 03:39 PM

hi,
one suggestion about the opener. i believe i have to use rupture from the begining, because since i have started to use it my damage became high and here is my vision how we are able to make opener:
snd, cheapshot, backstab , backstab, 4-5cp rupture, mfd kidney, dance, ambush, ambush, evis, ambush, ambush, cheapshot(garrote) , evis. I use it with Shadow focus and the cheapshot glyph. If you use hemo glyph you may replace first backstab to hemo for the buff of the next backstab. Rupture from the begining gives a huge additional damage to your opener and further time. Recomend to try it.
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 04:03 PM

hi,
one suggestion about the opener. i believe i have to use rupture from the begining, because since i have started to use it my damage became high and here is my vision how we are able to make opener:
snd, cheapshot, backstab , backstab, 4-5cp rupture, mfd kidney, dance, ambush, ambush, evis, ambush, ambush, cheapshot(garrote) , evis. I use it with Shadow focus and the cheapshot glyph. If you use hemo glyph you may replace first backstab to hemo for the buff of the next backstab. Rupture from the begining gives a huge additional damage to your opener and further time. Recomend to try it.

I have a section where I go over why using a 5cp rupture isn't ideal it can mess up your globals a lot you should check it out.
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 04:13 PM

I have a section where I go over why using a 5cp rupture isn't ideal it can mess up your globals a lot you should check it out.

yes, i saw it (your guide was really useful for me, by the way, thank you!) and sometimes i lose my stunlock from the target between cheapshot and mfd kidney...cheapshot glyph helps here though, moreover not any players are able to react and do something within 0.5 sec interval, while my stunlosck is broken.
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Posted 18 March 2015 - 12:27 AM

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 11:39 PM

Nahj said something on his stream about sub no longer being viable because of a 10% damage nerf to all classes, and said everyone has gone combat now. Thoughts?
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Posted 21 March 2015 - 12:21 AM

Nahj said something on his stream about sub no longer being viable because of a 10% damage nerf to all classes, and said everyone has gone combat now. Thoughts?


The 10% damage nerf was reverted, so sub can work again
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