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#21 HeyimJack

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 04:48 PM

Should still update enchants friend.

Added the leg enchant but gonna pass on adding the other 2 on my realm they're both extremely overpriced I don't want people wasting gold on something that doesn't matter a lot right now as this guides mainly here as a template to be changed in WoD.
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#22 Hyuru

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 05:24 PM

Added the leg enchant but gonna pass on adding the other 2 on my realm they're both extremely overpriced I don't want people wasting gold on something that doesn't matter a lot right now as this guides mainly here as a template to be changed in WoD.

They're still the best enchants? Why dont you add windsong aswell then?
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#23 HeyimJack

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 05:36 PM

They're still the best enchants? Why dont you add windsong aswell then?

There's less than a month of this expansion left I'm going to focus on WoD not what enchants are going to be best for the last few weeks of the xpac.
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#24 glonglon

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 06:10 PM

Great guide, good job Jack :)
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Posted 23 October 2014 - 06:14 PM

Linking pshero stream but not praii....
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#26 HeyimJack

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 06:36 PM

Linking pshero stream but not praii....

Praii very rarely streams and Pshero streams consistently, like I said in the guide.

"There are plenty other good rogues who stream but these are just a few who are more consistent with how often they stream."
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#27 Hyuru

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:16 PM

There's less than a month of this expansion left I'm going to focus on WoD not what enchants are going to be best for the last few weeks of the xpac.

Sure that's true, but why would you reccomend someone to buy enchants that's not the best because they are expensive on your server, in a guide none the less? It's fucking retarded.

Edited by Hyuru, 23 October 2014 - 08:16 PM.

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#28 prokillur

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:29 PM

Praii very rarely streams and Pshero streams consistently, like I said in the guide.

"There are plenty other good rogues who stream but these are just a few who are more consistent with how often they stream."


Fair enough, but think people would learn more from watching a few of praiis vods than watching pshero every day for a month
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#29 HeyimJack

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

Sure that's true, but why would you reccomend someone to buy enchants that's not the best because they are expensive on your server, in a guide none the less? It's fucking retarded.

Because this is MoP and no one really cares atm in WoD it will all be updated.
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#30 Torapants

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:59 PM

Because this is MoP and no one really cares atm in WoD it will all be updated.


You should still list it, even if you put a disclaimer in brackets stating that they may not be worth it if you're on a budget right now due to WoD coming out in a few weeks.
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Posted 24 October 2014 - 08:05 AM

Because this is MoP and no one really cares atm in WoD it will all be updated.

Following this logic you shouldnt even have made the thread before WoD was out, as of right now your guide is just missinforming. There might be new players or people coming back to the game looking for a rogue guide to have some fun in the pre-patch...

To give you some perspective, this thread has already gotten 3000~ views, imagine if 1% of those (10~) followed your guide by heart, they have wasted* (read: not fullt optimized their enchants) around 500-1000 gold (?) because you are too lazy to update the enchant section. Your reassoning? "It's pre-patch, it doesnt even matter" and "The best in slot enchants are expensive on my server".

You can hardly call that guide material, rest of the guide is fine though.

Edited by Hyuru, 24 October 2014 - 01:07 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 08:59 AM

tought life man
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#33 misdaa

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 09:32 AM

Why do you use that prep macro over this?:
#showtooltip Preparation
/cast [nostealth] Evasion
/cast Vanish
/cast Sprint
/cast Preparation
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#34 HeyimJack

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 02:56 PM

Why do you use that prep macro over this?:
#showtooltip Preparation
/cast [nostealth] Evasion
/cast Vanish
/cast Sprint
/cast Preparation

I had one that used evasion in the past but I found myself fat fingering it twice and using both evasions, which is pretty bad when evasion's one of our main tools for avoiding cc.
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#35 HeyimJack

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 03:18 PM

Following this logic you shouldnt even have made the thread before WoD was out, as of right now your guide is just missinforming. There might be new players or people coming back to the game looking for a rogue guide to have some fun in the pre-patch...

To give you some perspective, this thread has already gotten 3000~ views, imagine if 1% of those (10~) followed your guide by heart, they have wasted* (read: not fullt optimized their enchants) around 500-1000 gold (?) because you are too lazy to update the enchant section. Your reassoning? "It's pre-patch, it doesnt even matter" and "The best in slot enchants are expensive on my server".

You can hardly call that guide material, rest of the guide is fine though.

You make it sound like the enchants I've listed are bad in comparison which is by no means true, probably over 95% of pve/pvp rogues are still using the same enchants and doing fine they may not be the correct ones for now but they're not going to make much of a difference in performance at all.
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Posted 24 October 2014 - 03:32 PM

Following this logic you shouldnt even have made the thread before WoD was out, as of right now your guide is just missinforming. There might be new players or people coming back to the game looking for a rogue guide to have some fun in the pre-patch...

To give you some perspective, this thread has already gotten 3000~ views, imagine if 1% of those (10~) followed your guide by heart, they have wasted* (read: not fullt optimized their enchants) around 500-1000 gold (?) because you are too lazy to update the enchant section. Your reassoning? "It's pre-patch, it doesnt even matter" and "The best in slot enchants are expensive on my server".

You can hardly call that guide material, rest of the guide is fine though.

you realise those older enchants are going to be fixed during one of the hotfixes between now and wod launch?

really doesn't seem worth it to rage at the guy for not mentioning bugged enchants which happen to be the best today but could be hotfixed to their correct, weaker strength tomorrow, when some of them cost an absolute ton of gold for poor people to buy and all you can use them for are skirmish arenas and duels atm anyway :)

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 24 October 2014 - 03:38 PM.

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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 03:55 PM

Prep doesn't reset vanish also, I had one that used evasion in the past but I found myself fat fingering it twice and using both evasions, which is pretty bad when evasion's one of our main tools for avoiding cc.

wowhead /spell=14185

Immediately resets the cooldown on your Sprint, Vanish, and Evasion.
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#38 HeyimJack

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 04:03 PM

wowhead /spell=14185

Immediately resets the cooldown on your Sprint, Vanish, and Evasion.

I don't even know why I said it didn't reset vanish, but I wouldn't have vanish in the macro as majority of the time vanish is the reason I prep anyway.
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Posted 24 October 2014 - 04:24 PM

Sure that's true, but why would you reccomend someone to buy enchants that's not the best because they are expensive on your server, in a guide none the less? It's fucking retarded.


no, linking a overpriced shit enchat that will get fixed, is retarded
but go ahead and waste your gold for skirmish

great guide :wub:
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Posted 25 October 2014 - 10:05 PM

This guide was a tremendous help. Thanks for making it!
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