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#1 inhume

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:58 PM

Now , this isn't an attempt to discuss balance or which class is overpowered. This is more of an attempt to see what other flaws people see in the current system and how they would go about attempting to fix said issues or bring light to the issue.


Conquest Capping
This system is just horrendously flawed in the implementation as it causes the better or higher rated you are in the game, the longer it takes you to complete the task. No other system in the game works like this. You are rewarded for the difficulty that you play at with more points but you are punished with the amount of time required to cap. Not only is here the chances your games will be harder and longer, you are also required to play more to maximize your cap for the week.

How to help the issue
Go back to a winning % based reward system for amount of conquest rewarded. Blizzrd can decide on the amount of the games they feel is good for capping.

High Rated queing
Where the highest ranking players even find an incentive to queue is beyond me. Punished for playing against lower rated players, gear/conquest point reward leaves after approximately 2 months and the toxic enviroment of the community causes a whole lot more issus within the system to queue(Blizzard can't fix this issue).

How to help
Vanity awards that cost huge amount of conquest /rating, something other than the gladiator/rank 1 title (makes it harder to sell as a boost as it exposes the person more due to amount of playing by another person). Transmog dyes (should be easy to implement  since the technology existed in DaOC).


Just seeing what other issues people see.

#2 Justicethis

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Posted Yesterday, 07:38 AM

I agree with the % or just have a 10 wins to cap rule.

But on decayed chars that harvest higher CP cap for example afk char for 3months has 14.000 CP cap you should only get 180 per game so you can't afk and not have to do nothing to full gear them.

Transmog dyes like in Guild Wars 1 is a good idea but still that not something i feel is needed. This game imo has the most variety of items and looks in any MMO dyes won't solve it in the long run i think.

But i would like to be able to dye my gear like a rainbow though :mellow:

#3 Nexxer

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Posted Yesterday, 09:16 AM

View PostJusticethis, on 28 August 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

But on decayed chars that harvest higher CP cap for example afk char for 3months has 14.000 CP cap you should only get 180 per game so you can't afk and not have to do nothing to full gear them.

Can you even imagine what is like to cap a full pve geared char around 2k in 2s? I dont think you can imagine. Making us win 100+ games at "high" mmr without any gear whatsoever is just stupid.
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#4 HeyimJack

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Posted Yesterday, 10:39 AM

View PostNexxer, on 28 August 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Can you even imagine what is like to cap a full pve geared char around 2k in 2s? I dont think you can imagine. Making us win 100+ games at "high" mmr without any gear whatsoever is just stupid.
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#5 Holypalaswe

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Posted Today, 01:04 AM

View PostNexxer, on 28 August 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Can you even imagine what is like to cap a full pve geared char around 2k in 2s? I dont think you can imagine. Making us win 100+ games at "high" mmr without any gear whatsoever is just stupid.
Getting fully BIS-geared in PVP is ridiculously easy.


I agree with some of OPs points though.

#6 Lightningx

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Posted Today, 01:25 AM

free full gear at 90 pls so we can pvp without the bullshit

#7 Hordii

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Posted Today, 08:58 AM

View PostHolypalaswe, on 29 August 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:

Getting fully BIS-geared in PVP is ridiculously easy.


I agree with some of OPs points though.

As a healer with common sense, it's really not.

Been trying to cap my druid for so long... If I play resto I win but instant 2k+ mmr and 15 minute games. If I play boomkin, then I'm an undergeared boomkin and can't beat anyone with a healer

blizzard pls

#8 RippedLife

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Posted Today, 11:12 AM

View PostLightningx, on 29 August 2014 - 01:25 AM, said:

free full gear at 90 pls so we can pvp without the bullshit


boring, would kill the game
dude why u hatin, just like, chill man

#9 Flavours

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Posted Today, 11:18 AM

View PostLightningx, on 29 August 2014 - 01:25 AM, said:

free full gear at 90 pls so we can pvp without the bullshit

it's worrying how much sense your posting these past few days

View Postisthisnametakenyet, on 18 August 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

fucking scum why don't you just offer him help instead of being a dick

#10 Avengelyne

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Posted Today, 01:02 PM

Imagine you didn't have the catch-up system and you were screwed for the rest of the season and had to pray for world boss drops. If you were insta geared it would take away one of the biggest elements in WoW and would ultimately just result in standing around durotar. This is coming from someone who went through the gear process from greens -> prideful, and again tyannical -> prideful. Really doesn't take long.

I can see a problem if you're really bad and try to arena with zero gear, but in that case I recommend BGs. TBH if gearing up isn't easy enough as it is pls move on. I remember back when 1750 meant shoulders, and hell people couldn't even get 1650 for battlemasters let alone 2200 for T2. Imagine starting late season with that system.

#11 Noname

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Posted Today, 01:12 PM

"Where the highest ranking players even find an incentive to queue is beyond me".

Really? This is what's wrong with the community today. When I was active me and pretty much all my friends queued even though we were pretty much safe r1/glad. That didn't stop anyone. You played because it was fun.

Who the fk cares about titles? I just started playing some casual 2 months ago as rsham and I'm pretty much as good as any 2.3k shaman atm.
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