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#1 Crono_Smash

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 01:34 PM

I see endless people complaining about EMFH extra trinket. I can swim on rivers of tears of people saying EMFH is OP.

Those people know Orcs have a racial that does almost the same thing?

PVP Power difference goes to on the basic trinket, so it's the same. And PVP Power should be gone in WoD.

Just tell me if people complaining know this.


Prideful Gladiator's Badge of Victory
+2,506 PvP Power
Increases Strenght by 4,765 for 20 sec.


Blood Fury - Orc Racial  
Increases your melee attack power by 4514 and your spell power by 2257. Lasts 15 sec.
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#2 Clamnesia

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:10 PM

whats an EMFH?
Why monkeys? Im starting to believe these monkeys have been snake bitten.. A whistling Dennis Rodman and a snake bitten monkey are no different. For these tree dwellers hath stolen the eggs of the momma parakeet. The howler monkey howls at dawn and dusk, the spider monkey yelps "yeeeeee yeeeeee" through the forest. Even the cud chewing antelope ease drop from a far. Tranquilize the monkeys and put them in a zoo, says the man with the red beard and boonie hat. And now I've got shit pie on my face?

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#3 Nekrofil

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:16 PM

It's similiar but not even close to same,  blood fury vs trinket is still 200 ap loss,5 sec reduced duration and 1 min longer cd (blood fury is 2 minutes not 1 like trinket).

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:18 PM

Every Man For Himself.

But Animefreak showed me the difference: EMFH gives Str and Bloof Fury gives AP and Str is much stronger, therefore EMFH is really better.

Of course, 15% stun reduction is arguably much better than 3% Spirit, but it's not as simple as I imagined when I created the thread.

Ah, and so people have this in mind:

On WoD 1 Str = 1 AP, so it should be balanced. So there is no reason to complain.
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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:11 PM

I'm going to quote myself:

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2.506 / 400 = 6,265% (Points!) more
4.765 * 1,05 * 2 = 10.006,5 AP


Blood Fury = 4.514 AP / 2 = 2247 Strenght  worth (roundabout)

See the Difference? ;)

You don't have to be a genius too see, that the Human Racial is always the best choice.
The Orc Racial is good, but the Human Racials is much, much stronger.

As i tweeted on Twitter: Rework both racials to not be so racial impact the gameplay, and everything will be fine.


People choose (always) the Best, so on the Horde there are Orcs, and on Alliance there are Humans, which are the best choices.

Check the 2on2, 3on3, 5on5 and RBG Ladders. Not US only, everything ;) .

On EU you have ~98% Humans and ~85% Orcs. ...any Questions?


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Orc Racical has 2min CD
Use-Trinket hat 1min CD :D


Another Reason, why this Racials is OP   :P .

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Both grants you 210 Strength (Itemlevel 660) and Strenght On-Use or as a Procc.
It's the same as on live.

But this time, it's better than on live, because you gain the mainrecource (Strength). Since everything is based on your Mainstat, it's also a Buff, which will be ignored from the Devs - it's not commented to be clear :) .


Actual, it (still) looks like Blizzard (Holinka) is irgnoring these Facts!
If your thoughts are bad, you would say, it's because many People changed (changes) Race to Humans (PvP).
20 €/$/etc.......

#6 Nekrofil

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 07:50 PM

ye i failed there its str vs ap in favor of human... ;D my bad and yea humans are stronger,but that shit dosen't matter that much if you know how to play you will compensate dmg loss somehow,all in all just play what ever you enjoy more :)

#7 Animefreak3K

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 08:23 PM

No it does matter!
It's like an extra CD.

#8 Nekrofil

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 11:10 PM

Indeed it is more powerfull,but for example if you see US ladders (atleast 3vs3) they are overwhelmed with horde chars,if that human trinket was that much difference they would be all raped by random human players. :P

To cut the story,human is op and human will not make you get r1 title if you cant play so there are no difference,play fraction that your friends are playing and enjoy it :)

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:59 AM

View PostAnimefreak3K, on 26 August 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm going to quote myself:


Actual, it (still) looks like Blizzard (Holinka) is irgnoring these Facts!
If your thoughts are bad, you would say, it's because many People changed (changes) Race to Humans (PvP).
20 €/$/etc.......

I believe we will see it second season of wod.
This way most would have already their free 90 wasted which means more potential customers to go for 20$ race change once human aint fotm anymore and they could pad profits against the sub falloff in the months after wod release.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 06:39 AM

Blood fury = double the cooldown AND less attackpower/spellpower
Trinket lasts longer than the racial ???
Cloth/Leather/Mail/Plate mastery ???
Passives that increase your base stat ??? (Sinister Calling etc)

Are you fucking daft?

#11 Creamo

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:25 AM

Well I guess one point for bf is that you can stack it with proc trinket and engi gloves. Clicky trinket and gloves still can't be used together right?

Edited by Creamo, 09 September 2014 - 02:26 AM.





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