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#1 lehel

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:58 AM






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#2 Gigana

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 11:12 AM

Still dispellable?
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#3 Nixonxx

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 11:51 AM

Literally the best paladin change
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#4 Elorxo

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 11:53 AM

View PostGigana, on 09 August 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:

Still dispellable?

implying being immune to cc whilst sac is up and having 2 charges would be balanced?

lmao

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:12 PM

why?

is holy fire, tremor etc. off GCD too then?

View PostDillypoo, on 03 August 2014 - 09:44 PM, said:

GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

#6 Feliclandelo

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:15 PM

View PostElorxo, on 09 August 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

implying being immune to cc whilst sac is up and having 2 charges would be balanced?

lmao

What? Also are you refering to Rets or Holy? Holy doesn't dispel anything with Sac and they are the ones needing dispel protection, not Rets.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 09 August 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

What? Also are you refering to Rets or Holy? Holy doesn't dispel anything with Sac and they are the ones needing dispel protection, not Rets.
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He's not talking about sac dispelling someone else. He's talking about the paladin being immune to cc which breaks on damage while sac is up.
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#8 Elorxo

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:23 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 09 August 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

What? Also are you refering to Rets or Holy? Holy doesn't dispel anything with Sac and they are the ones needing dispel protection, not Rets.

i meant if holy had undispellable sac. with the new dr changes you'd just be immune to cc for ages especially since sac has 2 charges.

#9 jaimex

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 01:58 PM

now make grounding and tremor off gcd too

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:20 PM

View Postjaimex, on 09 August 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

now make grounding and tremor off gcd too
ya buff grounding and tremor good idea

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:35 PM

View Postjaimex, on 09 August 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

now make grounding and tremor off gcd too
and lava surge procs and earthshock with fulmination stacks off gcd also, and make healing surge instant cast while they are at it, after all, elemental shamans as a spec have a tiny bit less representation then rogues as a class, so they obviously need help right? :)

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 09 August 2014 - 02:40 PM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#12 jaimex

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:27 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 09 August 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

and lava surge procs and earthshock with fulmination stacks off gcd also, and make healing surge instant cast while they are at it, after all, elemental shamans as a spec have a tiny bit less representation then rogues as a class, so they obviously need help right? :)

haha get farmed by mingyo you downer

#13 Gigana

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:40 PM

View PostElorxo, on 09 August 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

implying being immune to cc whilst sac is up and having 2 charges would be balanced?

lmao
The only CCs sac affects are the ones that automatically break off dmg. It does nothing vs fears, stuns, horrifys etc. (theoretically, it should help break fear, but I still sit full fears while my teammate is nuked even with sac up, so no)

Also, sac is pre-emptive. You can simply wait for it to end, and then CC as normal.

Finally, in EU sac gets instantly dispelled/spellstolen by everyone even at low ratings. Ofc, as a priest you don't see a problem with this, but it basically renders sac useless vs anyone who is not asleep.
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#14 Nexxer

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:41 PM

View Postjaimex, on 09 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

haha get farmed by mingyo you downer

ya feel the burn n00b Xd

such comeback
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#15 Elorxo

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:46 PM

View PostGigana, on 09 August 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

The only CCs sac affects are the ones that automatically break off dmg. It does nothing vs fears, stuns, horrifys etc. (theoretically, it should help break fear, but I still sit full fears while my teammate is nuked even with sac up, so no)

Also, sac is pre-emptive. You can simply wait for it to end, and then CC as normal.

Finally, in EU sac gets instantly dispelled/spellstolen by everyone even at low ratings. Ofc, as a priest you don't see a problem with this, but it basically renders sac useless vs anyone who is not asleep.

the amount of times i've spent like 6 globals trying to get sac is unreal but ye its pretty rng regardless
fear will break really easily from dmg in wod apparently and will dr with poly and why would sac break a horrify? lol
if it was unpurgable it DEFINITELY shouldn't have 2 charges and should have a reduced duration

Edited by Elorxo, 09 August 2014 - 03:46 PM.


#16 jaimex

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 03:48 PM

View PostElorxo, on 09 August 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

the amount of times i've spent like 6 globals trying to get sac is unreal but ye its pretty rng regardless
fear will break really easily from dmg in wod apparently and will dr with poly and why would sac break a horrify? lol
if it was unpurgable it DEFINITELY shouldn't have 2 charges and should have a reduced duration

the amount of times ive spent 30 purges into a priest whos pillar hugging with a rogue sitting on me roguing me is unreal

shut up

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 04:06 PM

View PostElorxo, on 09 August 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

the amount of times i've spent like 6 globals trying to get sac is unreal but ye its pretty rng regardless
fear will break really easily from dmg in wod apparently and will dr with poly and why would sac break a horrify? lol
if it was unpurgable it DEFINITELY shouldn't have 2 charges and should have a reduced duration
hpalas have a grand total of 3 buffs they can maintain on a teammate: EF hot, mastery shield, and kings/might. So, unless the hpal & his teammates are constantly reapplying trash buffs + you're super unlucky, you really shouldn't need that many gcds to remove a sac. In WoD it'll be even easier because EF gets a cast time so we won't be able to reapply it as easily as we can now.

I never said sac should break a horrify, you're the one who said sac makes us immune to cc and I told you it clearly doesn't.

On a related note, I am still waiting to see how Blizz intends to keep hpalas from being everyone's main target in WoD. No chance we'll be able to keep ourselves up while being trained with only holy shock & holy prism as instants.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 04:11 PM

View PostGigana, on 09 August 2014 - 04:06 PM, said:

hpalas have a grand total of 3 buffs they can maintain on a teammate: EF hot, mastery shield, and kings/might. So, unless the hpal & his teammates are constantly reapplying trash buffs + you're super unlucky, you really shouldn't need that many gcds to remove a sac. In WoD it'll be even easier because EF gets a cast time so we won't be able to reapply it as easily as we can now.

I never said sac should break a horrify, you're the one who said sac makes us immune to cc and I told you it clearly doesn't.

On a related note, I am still waiting to see how Blizz intends to keep hpalas from being everyone's main target in WoD. No chance we'll be able to keep ourselves up while being trained with only holy shock & holy prism as instants.

hpalas are looking to be possibly the best healer..

#19 Elorxo

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

View Postjaimex, on 09 August 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

the amount of times ive spent 30 purges into a priest whos pillar hugging with a rogue sitting on me roguing me is unreal

shut up

and then u 1 shotted the mage with an unleash without cc on the priest cos you play a disgusting class

ur a fucking downer and i'm pretty sure 99% of this forum agrees with me (apart from other downers of course)

Edited by Elorxo, 09 August 2014 - 04:56 PM.


#20 jaimex

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:01 PM

View PostElorxo, on 09 August 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

and then u 1 shotted the mage with an unleash without cc on the priest cos you play a disgusting class

ur a fucking downer and i'm pretty sure 99% of this forum agrees with me (apart from other downers of course)

implying that i have a global to press flame shock unleash and lava burst and you didnt heal him for over 20 seconds resulting in his death

stop being shit and get 3k like every other rmp.




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