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#41 The_Observer

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:52 PM

Step gets 2 charges, step grants X % dmg increase on your next ability, Step breaks 1 root effect.

They for some reason don't want to fix the tier and do the step tier most rogues want.
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#42 Kynox

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:05 PM

? What

Frozen Ammo Arms your ranged weapon with exotic ammunition that lasts for 60 min.
Each autoshot deals 40% additional weapon damage as Frost and reduces the target's movement speed by 50% for 8 sec. Only one exotic munition can be active at one time.

If they get rid of BoS they should also get rid of this.
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#43 Elorxo

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:58 PM

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#44 Speedymart

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:10 AM

Just make sprint break roots on use like the old combat talent did and just replace BoS with it?
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:28 AM

You retards don't realise that BoS isn't going anywhere, do you know the outcry there would be from PvErs/people soloing old content if they flat out removed BoS or removed the sprint portion from it?

The best you should hope for is a further energy increase or an ICD on the slow removal. But nah, you are too stupid to see the overall balance perspective and think only PvP exists in this game.
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#46 Elorxo

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:35 AM

You retards don't realise that BoS isn't going anywhere, do you know the outcry there would be from PvErs/people soloing old content if they flat out removed BoS or removed the sprint portion from it?

The best you should hope for is a further energy increase or an ICD on the slow removal. But nah, you are too stupid to see the overall balance perspective and think only PvP exists in this game.


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#47 Xerox

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 05:29 AM

I get why people defend BoS, it looks like a fun talent, but it needs to fuck off out this game already.
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:10 AM

You retards don't realise that BoS isn't going anywhere, do you know the outcry there would be from PvErs/people soloing old content if they flat out removed BoS or removed the sprint portion from it?

The best you should hope for is a further energy increase or an ICD on the slow removal. But nah, you are too stupid to see the overall balance perspective and think only PvP exists in this game.


Ah yeah, all those Dragon Slayers need speed boosts when they're stood primarily in one position (behind the boss) following mechanics which don't need speed boosts.

pls lrn2slaydragons b4 u come here acting all dragon slayer high & mighty
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#49 Xerox

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:42 AM

pls lrn2slaydragons b4 u come here acting all dragon slayer high & mighty


Dragonslayer's probably the best title in game tho, lez be honest. Be more PVE.
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:29 AM

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Burst of Speed Increases your movement speed by 70% for 4 sec and removes movement slowing effects. Useable while stealthed. Rogue - LvL 60 Talent. 20 Energy. Instant. 25 Energy. Instant.


25 energy now! Stay tuned for next week, who knows what it will be!?
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:32 AM

25 energy now! Stay tuned for next week, who knows what it will be!?


This feels a little better, still think it should be around 30
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

Ah yeah, all those Dragon Slayers need speed boosts when they're stood primarily in one position (behind the boss) following mechanics which don't need speed boosts.

pls lrn2slaydragons b4 u come here acting all dragon slayer high & mighty


Yeh because you never have to run between bosses or anything, mongoloid.

Looks like they increased the energy regen again, so I was right, it's not going anywhere. Deal with it.
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

You retards don't realise that BoS isn't going anywhere, do you know the outcry there would be from PvErs/people soloing old content if they flat out removed BoS or removed the sprint portion from it?

The best you should hope for is a further energy increase or an ICD on the slow removal. But nah, you are too stupid to see the overall balance perspective and think only PvP exists in this game.

I'm not too familiar with PvE, but most of the times when I hear someone complaining about nerfs to abilities because of PvE, the arguments seems based on lazyness (warr double interrupt gone, oh no, now I can't single handedly interrupt a boss, someone else needs to do it too and that requires coordination!). Soloing old content will not be harder without BoS, but it will take a bit longer, which means that people will complain due to lazyness, nothing else. As for boss fights, most other classes seems to do just fine without a permanent movement speed increase, so why wouldn't rogues?

I'm most likely a biased PvP retard, but I do not see why BoS would be neccessary for PvE.
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#54 varellz

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:10 PM

I'm not too familiar with PvE, but most of the times when I hear someone complaining about nerfs to abilities because of PvE, the arguments seems based on lazyness (warr double interrupt gone, oh no, now I can't single handedly interrupt a boss, someone else needs to do it too and that requires coordination!). Soloing old content will not be harder without BoS, but it will take a bit longer, which means that people will complain due to lazyness, nothing else. As for boss fights, most other classes seems to do just fine without a permanent movement speed increase, so why wouldn't rogues?

I'm most likely a biased PvP retard, but I do not see why BoS would be neccessary for PvE.


hm most other classes have something else for pve raid situations

mage blink
lock gate/port
warri charge leap
dk range dmg + pet
rogue has nothing baseline (with low cooldown) for this concern, so its kinda obvious why the pveguys will rage about it

Edited by varellz, 07 August 2014 - 01:11 PM.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:19 PM

Yeh because you never have to run between bosses or anything, mongoloid..

Please do not take this fucking retard as any sort of indication as to what decent pve'ers are like. You're seriously trying to say something's not going to be balanced because you need to RUN FROM BOSS TO BOSS faster... No wonder pvp'ers think we're all retarded :(
P.s. rogues don't need to move from anything in pve you can ignore most mechanics with cds :)
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#56 Xerox

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:01 PM

Please do not take this fucking retard as any sort of indication as to what decent pve'ers are like. You're seriously trying to say something's not going to be balanced because you need to RUN FROM BOSS TO BOSS faster... No wonder pvp'ers think we're all retarded :(
P.s. rogues don't need to move from anything in pve you can ignore most mechanics with cds :)


This, 100% this
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:16 PM

Please do not take this fucking retard as any sort of indication as to what decent pve'ers are like. You're seriously trying to say something's not going to be balanced because you need to RUN FROM BOSS TO BOSS faster... No wonder pvp'ers think we're all retarded :(
P.s. rogues don't need to move from anything in pve you can ignore most mechanics with cds :)


Have you ever tried to run BWL or MC without Burst of Speed? It would have taken me forever to get full T2 without BoS
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:30 PM

Have you ever tried to run BWL or MC without Burst of Speed? It would have taken me forever to get full T2 without BoS


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:34 PM

Yeh because you never have to run between bosses or anything, mongoloid.

Looks like they increased the energy regen again, so I was right, it's not going anywhere. Deal with it.


holy shit,

you did it

someone finally made a more retarded post than someone defending rogues in pvp :o
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:50 PM

hm most other classes have something else for pve raid situations

mage blink
lock gate/port
warri charge leap
dk range dmg + pet
rogue has nothing baseline (with low cooldown) for this concern, so its kinda obvious why the pveguys will rage about it


Rogues dont necessarily need a movement speed cooldown in this situation. Why do they need to get away from something when they can just Cloak it? evasion? vanish? prep vanish? sprint if they just HAVE to move fast. stun it? like a million things... BoS has NO justification whatsoever... at least not in its current state. There is absolutely NO reason that ANYTHING needs 70% additional movement speed at all times that breaks slows and roots. No excuse. No justification. Rogues have plenty of utility at their disposal. If you use that utility to be a mongoloid retard and die because you no longer have it.. That's your fault. Other than BoS and subterfuge, i think rogues are fine.. Subterfuge needs to be reworked. being able to drop someone to 30% before you can be targeted is absurd.

LOL at all the retards that think this game is going to be fixed in WoD. This game is not fixable unless they delete everything that was implemented after 3.1 and start over with lessons learned.

Edited by Clamnesia, 07 August 2014 - 02:51 PM.

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