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#21 varellz

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 02:28 PM

Burst of speed SHOULD be a risk decision, it's a snare-breaking sprint with 0 cooldown for christ sake, if you consider that 'unusable' then my mental well being shouldn't be what you're worried about. With a high energy cost you'll need to preemptively pool energy before you yolo fuck off half way across the map. Then again, this might require players to actually manage their energy.


nope.
at start of mop bos removed roots but the energy cost was 60 and no one used it. they lowered it to 40 and made it remove snares, no one used it cuz its absolute bullshit.
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#22 Xerox

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:38 PM

Lets compromise at 30 energy then I dunno, the point is, it being spammable is retarded. Et Fin.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 04:00 PM

The thing is most people want it nerfed to the point were no one would ever take it over step.
Blizzard is not one of most people.
When BoS costed 30e no one took it over 24sec step and step is 20sec now so...
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#24 prokillur

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 04:16 PM

BoS is needed in the current state of the game, no one disputes that

Nothing has changed in WoD that makes it any less needed

Hence, BoS is still needed in WoD and so the nerf they gave to it is sufficient.

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#25 raziael1

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 04:31 PM

Burst of speed SHOULD be a risk decision, it's a snare-breaking sprint with 0 cooldown for christ sake, if you consider that 'unusable' then my mental well being shouldn't be what you're worried about. With a high energy cost you'll need to preemptively pool energy before you yolo fuck off half way across the map. Then again, this might require players to actually manage their energy.


You're a mongoloid, any and every class in the game has roots in their kit or a talent they can pick to make a snare into a root. Most classes have stuns in their kit as well. The amount of tools that can be used by most classes regardless of stun silence is funny as well.
Blizzard needs to stop balancing rogues around all the retard MoP players that can't deal with the weakest class in game.
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#26 The_Observer

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:03 PM

Lets compromise at 30 energy then I dunno, the point is, it being spammable is retarded. Et Fin.

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#27 Connellypwnz

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:06 PM



Burst of Speed still requires lot of practice to use properly
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:31 PM

with bos on 40 energy i would still take it every day because you are slowed 100% of the time, not only once every 20 seconds...

the problem is, a rogue with step cant compete and a rogue with bos is just retarded. maybe let it only remove snares so the rogue cant allways run at lightning speed. it would still be superior to step

lets say cloak and dagger can be used to step to a friendly target, everyone would take it and bos and step would remain garbage. thats how bos is atm
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#29 Xerox

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:33 PM

You're a mongoloid, any and every class in the game has roots in their kit or a talent they can pick to make a snare into a root. Most classes have stuns in their kit as well. The amount of tools that can be used by most classes regardless of stun silence is funny as well.
Blizzard needs to stop balancing rogues around all the retard MoP players that can't deal with the weakest class in game.


Roots vs rogues = AMAZING HE'S IN MELEE RANGE lulw8 #JK he's halfway across the map again. Mmmmyeah.

That aside, the fact that you genuinely believe rogues are the weakest class in game is a true testament to your window-licking nature. Kudos to you sir, kudos.

Listen, I'm not saying burst of speed is the most op shit floating around right now, but I think trying to argue that it's balanced is pretty retarded. It needs a revamp. That opinion should be unanimous.
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#30 varellz

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 06:47 PM

no it is NOT balanced but needed.
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#31 Speedymart

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 06:54 PM

Make step baseline and completely revamp that entire talent tier into something else


There is absolutely no way to balance the three, and 99% of players would prefer to have step or think step as a iconic rogue ability
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:13 PM

blizzard pls http://www.wowhead.com/spell=137638
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#33 Narthypoo

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:22 PM

Why wouldn't a version of BoS with no speed boost but just a root breaker - same energy cost, no CD - work? That way you're rooted, you spend the energy to remove it like a self dispel then keep going to your target.
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#34 Marshmellow

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:35 PM

Why wouldn't a version of BoS with no speed boost but just a root breaker - same energy cost, no CD - work? That way you're rooted, you spend the energy to remove it like a self dispel then keep going to your target.


The answer to that is in your question
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#35 Dahjy

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:53 PM

You're a mongoloid, any and every class in the game has roots in theiretarded a talent they can pick to make a snare into a root. Most classes have stuns in their kit as well. The amount of tools that can be used by most classes regardless of stun silence is funny as well.
Blizzard needs to stop balancing rogues around all the retard MoP players that can't deal with the weakest class in game.


Are you an idiot? If you think rogues are the weakest class in the game your delusional. So sick of all these rogues defending this retatded ability and play style that goes along with it.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:06 PM

BoS is broken and should only remove slows, not also making the rogue have a sprint without cooldown.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:09 PM

People who think step isn't even viable, lel. It's still good, but burst is just better, and more retarded. I think a perm 70% speed increase is just retarded as fuck, and the 5 energy increase isn't going to do shit.

BoS is broken and should only remove slows, not also making the rogue have a sprint without cooldown.


^ That.

Edited by FiveKayRogue, 06 August 2014 - 10:12 PM.

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#38 The_Observer

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:12 PM

BoS is broken and should only remove slows,

It already only removes slows...
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#39 Bootzx

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:14 PM

Make step baseline and completely revamp that entire talent tier into something else


There is absolutely no way to balance the three, and 99% of players would prefer to have step or think step as a iconic rogue ability


Step gets 2 charges, step grants X % dmg increase on your next ability, Step breaks 1 root effect.
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#40 FiveKayRogue

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:14 PM

It already only removes slows...

He means without the sprint effect.
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