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#1 Admoney

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:26 PM

Crowd Control and Diminishing Returns
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    • Tremor Totem is no longer usable while under the effects of Fear, Charm, or Sleep.


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#2 Miixzy

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:31 PM

Wasn't there a thread on this before? or?
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:35 PM

awesome, but i think 1 min cd might be a bit too excessive then, if people can just kill it and then fear

i hope the same happens to berserker rage :)

View PostDillypoo, on 03 August 2014 - 09:44 PM, said:

GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:41 PM

our third tremor thread, brilliant

Edited by Flavours, 30 July 2014 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:49 PM

View Postfreshfreefly, on 30 July 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

awesome, but i think 1 min cd might be a bit too excessive then, if people can just kill it and then fear

i hope the same happens to berserker rage :)
Can't even use it anyway. Priest is always gonna chastise first so you can't drop grounding, warlocks tend to shadowfury.

If you decide to trop tremor before chastise or shadowfury you're just asking for it to be destroyed.

Edited by Forumz, 30 July 2014 - 04:49 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:07 PM

View PostForumz, on 30 July 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

Can't even use it anyway. Priest is always gonna chastise first so you can't drop grounding, warlocks tend to shadowfury.

If you decide to trop tremor before chastise or shadowfury you're just asking for it to be destroyed.

you are forgetting chastise isn't even going to be worth using on shamans 90% of the time because of how many things it drs


either way there was already another large thread called cya tremor on this

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:18 PM

View PostElorxo, on 30 July 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

you are forgetting chastise isn't even going to be worth using on shamans 90% of the time because of how many things it drs


either way there was already another large thread called cya tremor on this
you are forgetting that most people won't actually have a clue about the dr changes until they log in on launch day, and they will be complaining about cc up until then

anyway, tremor nerf kills resto shamans pretty much (deservedly after two expansions of being the absolute best healer) and so bring on wod, the expansion of holypaladin dominance =)

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 30 July 2014 - 05:19 PM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

dont forget that fear got rekt and is 6 seconds now
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 06:22 PM

the only problem with the old tremor is that it ticked every five seconds, making it pointless to drop before a fear as they'd just kill it before it would tick again

I believe it currently ticks every one second, so this change is amazing
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 06:39 PM

so tremoring a fear will be similiar to swding a poly or something similiar but easier i guess?

still preferable to the current no brain system on a tremor every 30 seconds practically

Edited by Elorxo, 30 July 2014 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:04 PM

It'll be used as a fear break on teammates (so basically the same for ele/enhance) and let you save a dispel for resto.

Any resto should and will be deeped/shadowfuried/silenced etc before a fear (So looking forwards to shadow cc.... 5 sec silence -> 6 sec psychic horror - > 6 sec fear). No sensible team is going to hardcast a fear into a r shamans face when there's still a shit ton of instant cc to start the whole cc chain with.

Your all still going to bitch about it because r druids with a tremor (if enhance or ele end up viable) or pallies with the new HoF and the new dr system are going to sit far less cc than r shams currently do.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:46 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 30 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

you are forgetting that most people won't actually have a clue about the dr changes until they log in on launch day, and they will be complaining about cc up until then

anyway, tremor nerf kills resto shamans pretty much (deservedly after two expansions of being the absolute best healer) and so bring on wod, the expansion of holypaladin dominance =)
Why do you think that paladins will be the best healer in WoD? Played some beta, and Paladin heals feels pretty weak compared to Priests and Druids. Haven't tried Shaman, but the only class, at least healing wise that Paladins feels stronger than is monks.
I suppose they have gotten some nice buffs to cc avoidance via glyph of hof, but nothing that makes me feel like they will outshine other healers.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:55 PM

View Postottishen, on 30 July 2014 - 07:46 PM, said:

Why do you think that paladins will be the best healer in WoD? Played some beta, and Paladin heals feels pretty weak compared to Priests and Druids. Haven't tried Shaman, but the only class, at least healing wise that Paladins feels stronger than is monks.
I suppose they have gotten some nice buffs to cc avoidance via glyph of hof, but nothing that makes me feel like they will outshine other healers.
if WOD went live tomorrow, as it is on the beta right now, the best setups would be melee melee x and hunter melee x, possibly sp rogue x

which healer has the best tools for keeping cleave teams mobile? which healer has the best defensives to survive being trained by cleave teams? which healer can pick and choose their cc dr to fit into what their team has?

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 30 July 2014 - 10:56 PM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:19 PM

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which healer has the best tools for keeping cleave teams mobile? which healer has the best defensives to survive being trained by cleave teams? which healer can pick and choose their cc dr to fit into what their team has?

We were the best healer with the best tools for keeping cleave mobile because we had lots of trashs buff, a passive talent which give you X% dispel resist, magic dispel, huge heals and sacred cleaning. And few classes had offensive dispel.
Since Cataclysm, we lost our trashs buffs, our huge heals and magic dispel (Every healer have that now), and freedom/sac/bop are too easily dispellable to be a threat to any reactive team.
Yes, spellsteal, i'm looking at you.

Every melee cleave now wants a monk, a priest, or sometimes a shaman.

Right now, on the beta, and if nothing change, rdruid will be the best healer for everything. Just because of their huge and (still) instant heal, their cc, and...everything in fact. But number could change. (I hope.)

(Casting WoG/Eternal Flame is disturbing, but fun. Not rewarding compared to priest/rdruid instants in the actual WoD Build, but it's fun.)

Edited by Jim_Jim, 30 July 2014 - 11:23 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:22 PM

View PostJim_Jim, on 30 July 2014 - 11:19 PM, said:

Every melee cleave now wants a monk, a priest, or sometimes a shaman.
no cleave in wod will want a monk, a priest or a shaman

druids are also currently stupidly overpowered at healing in pve compared to every other healer, so they will be massively toned down before launch

and whats left after that is? :)

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 30 July 2014 - 11:48 PM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:51 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 30 July 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

no cleave in wod will want a monk, a priest or a shaman

druids are also currently stupidly overpowered at healing in pve compared to every other healer, so they will be massively toned down before launch

and whats left after that is? :)

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