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#1 Glink

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 04:59 AM

...But I beg to differ!

Had a really good session (well, what started out as one anyways) versus a really good MLS. Now yes, I was playing monk beastcleave at the time, which is bound to get a lot of hate, but destro MLS is actually a counter to any beastcleave so this was an uphill battle.

Anyways, this vod contains 3 games, but the main reason I highlighted it were 2 games on dalaran, shown after the first game on blades edge.

http://www.twitch.tv/glinksz/c/4753732

Skip to 5:11 or so to see what I'm talking about, I got an explosive trap which at the very tail end of the knockback lifted the rsham into the air at the same moment the water launching from the entrance shot out, shooting him to our boxes, allowing for an easy scatter trap.

This happened not once, but twice, again in the next game. I have actually seen this before but completely wasn't thinking about it when I threw the trap (maybe subconsciously?) the first game, but the second game I was completely going for the same effect, and got it!

Anyways these were some pretty awesome games, and yes I was probably yelling and acting like a retard, but was just having fun!

And there were alot of mistakes made by us and me in this vod, not claiming to have played perfectly.

Enjoy!

Edited by Glink, 27 July 2014 - 05:07 AM.

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#2 Speedymart

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:04 AM

:hunter: thread


kinda cool tho

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:16 AM

why does your partner think that destro mls counters mistweaver beast cleave?
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:37 AM

why does your partner think that destro mls counters mistweaver beast cleave?


It does. They started winning when they realized they need to poly me in opener to prevent leg sweep. It's to much spammable CC and I don't have enough dispels.

That's the only reason we were winning.

I mean double mortal coil->deep hunter

Blanket CS

That's all they need technically for a kill.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:45 AM

It does. They started winning when they realized they need to poly me in opener to prevent leg sweep. It's to much spammable CC and I don't have enough dispels.

That's the only reason we were winning.

I mean double mortal coil->deep hunter

Blanket CS

That's all they need technically for a kill.

Plus imp dispell basically means we rely on RNG to win mostly (even if I mark traps).
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:54 AM

Plus imp dispell basically means we rely on RNG to win mostly (even if I mark traps).


Hit mage. Wyvern/sap/hex lock when you get a trap...

Edit: Cross cc too hard

Edited by Dillypoo, 27 July 2014 - 05:55 AM.

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did you ever get round to taking it? It's actually the best free site i've found :)

Gonna take that as you flopped hard and couldn't get near my score with repeated tries :)


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:03 AM

Hit mage. Wyvern/sap/hex lock when you get a trap...

Edit: Cross cc too hard


You can Imp dispel while in CC.

Nice try.

The only 2 CCs you can't is clone and fear.

Which we don't have.

Edit: Shit talking too hard.

Edited by Lethargicx, 27 July 2014 - 06:03 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:09 AM

You can Imp dispel while in CC.

Nice try.

The only 2 CCs you can't is clone and fear.

Which we don't have.

Edit: Shit talking too hard.


Thugonomicz plays pet sac.
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did you ever get round to taking it? It's actually the best free site i've found :)

Gonna take that as you flopped hard and couldn't get near my score with repeated tries :)


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:11 AM

Yeah.

You can imp dispel with pet sac while in CC. Go test it. Sorry for the above being a smartass w/ "Edit: Shit talking too hard.

I did destro LSM w/ Chang and it was such a joke. Just dispel me out of pom poly.

Also you can't imp dispel while silenced, but most likely SS went into poly, fear, or chaos bolt. Forgot to add that one.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:18 AM

Right here 1:14:20

he's in sap and dispels trap

http://www.twitch.tv/cdewx/b/551601418

edit:

uhh
[1:18:53 AM] -: only like
[1:18:53 AM]-: stuns
[1:18:53 AM]-: or if im in the trap itself
[1:18:58 AM]-: fears and sheeps i cant
[1:19:21 AM] -: pretty much can't use it in things that say "loss of control of character' or w/e
[1:19:22 AM]-: hex
[1:19:22 AM] -: poly
[1:19:24 AM] -: fear

editted out name

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:23 AM

[1:19:22 AM]-: hex

edit: silence mage

Edited by Dillypoo, 27 July 2014 - 06:23 AM.

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did you ever get round to taking it? It's actually the best free site i've found :)

Gonna take that as you flopped hard and couldn't get near my score with repeated tries :)


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:25 AM

The positioning of the MLS would have to be perfect to correctly line up SS on mage the second lock gets hexed the second shaman gets trapped.

Even then 3 seconds later trap gets dispelled.

And if hunter wants to try and keep Hunter's Mark on shaman, he can't attack mage. Otherwise, it's a 3 second trap.

So it's the exact same as Scatter into SS.

So why trap at all?

Better just to Para at that point.

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"Cross CC to hard"
IMHO it's better to hex mage w/ blanket CC on shaman to purge him or stop some damage.

With what you said, you'd have to have perfect coordination all for so little CC, at that point might as well scatter trap lock and sap shaman.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 06:48 AM

The positioning of the MLS would have to be perfect to correctly line up SS on mage the second lock gets hexed the second shaman gets trapped.

Even then 3 seconds later trap gets dispelled.

And if hunter wants to try and keep Hunter's Mark on shaman, he can't attack mage. Otherwise, it's a 3 second trap.

So it's the exact same as Scatter into SS.

So why trap at all?

Better just to Para at that point.

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"Cross CC to hard"
IMHO it's better to hex mage w/ blanket CC on shaman to purge him or stop some damage.

With what you said, you'd have to have perfect coordination all for so little CC, at that point might as well scatter trap lock and sap shaman.


Just those 3 seconds are going to force crazy pressure in the first place, and honestly the mage probably wont have time to use his global on dispel, especially if you pop offensives into him.
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did you ever get round to taking it? It's actually the best free site i've found :)

Gonna take that as you flopped hard and couldn't get near my score with repeated tries :)


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:35 AM

duno why you're all talking about cc, all beastcleave has to do is press ascendance and chimera at the same time and get free points
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Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:49 AM

duno why you're all talking about cc, all beastcleave has to do is press ascendance and chimera at the same time and get free points


http://i.imgur.com/rnrfBy7.png
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:07 AM

http://i.imgur.com/rnrfBy7.png

You yelled at me to sac you :ph34r:
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

those games pretty much shows why mls isn't a counter to beastcleave, even if you guys sit in CC from time to time

cool traps though
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GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:13 AM

those games pretty much shows why mls isn't a counter to beastcleave, even if you guys sit in CC from time to time

cool traps though

Sure but, what isn't shown are the 3 games after lol. Granted we fucked up a bit, but like we have to play really well imo to win. Idk, its difficult for me anyways.
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